The Sacramento Kings earned their first road win of the season on Wednesday, beating the Toronto Raptors 98-91. The Kings had been 0-5 with an averaging losing margin of 23 points away from The Gymmer coming in, but a strong fourth quarter led Sactown to sweet victory.
DeMarcus Cousins had a monster night with 21 points and a career-high 19 rebounds. He started off well with eight points in the first quarter, and controlled the boards throughout. Isaiah Thomas had the best game of his young NBA career, scoring 20 points on 6-12 shooting with six assists in 23 minutes. Tyreke Evans had a big scoring night with 29, but shot just 7-22 from the floor (including 4-14 in the first half). But Evans was perfect from the line, hitting 14-14 including some big ones down the stretch. Making an impact when the shot isn't falling is right in Evans' wheelhouse.
As a team, the Kings went 31-34 from the line, something that would have seemed impossible in the first week of the season.
The Kings are now 4-7, and play at Houston on Friday and at Dallas on Saturday.
1 recs | 345 comments
Road Win
rpmonkey - January 11, 2012
Great game Cuz
Josh L - January 11, 2012
Cousins is a star!!!!!
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
I'm the boss of me. I'm the king of me. I'm DeMarcus Cousins. I'm the star
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
What?
Christina didn’t flag this?
bignerd - January 11, 2012
Weeeee!!
DiegoKing - January 11, 2012
OMG this is EPIC
A Night At The Arco - January 11, 2012
Agreed, I'm still laughing.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
My favorite.
Ichiban - January 11, 2012
To all who said this team can´t win:
rubenho - January 11, 2012
Blasphemy!
How dare you soil Homer Simpson’s reputation with editing in middle fingers.
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
darooster - January 11, 2012
There was no editing...
That was from the movie.
The Guy on the Couch - January 12, 2012
ya
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
How dare you steal my (non) trademarked GIF!
…I still rec’d it.
Subcon - January 11, 2012
Kings win! Everybody celebrate!
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
Normdog - January 11, 2012
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LLcoolRay - January 11, 2012
This Dude abides
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
WOOOOOO
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
tag team style..Isaiah and Cuz
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Lag :(
CousinsEvansDUO - January 11, 2012
Demar Derozan tonight
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Is that dude still alive?
rubenho - January 11, 2012
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA REC'D!
1damutt - January 11, 2012
Reke, DMC, Isaiah combine for 70...
Who woulda thought?
Tyro18 - January 11, 2012
Normdog - January 11, 2012
HELL YEAH!
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
.
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
Oh yeah its a tittilating win!
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
..
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
He’s a master of karate and friendship for everyone!
Ichiban - January 11, 2012
DAAAAAAYYYYMMMMAAAAANNNN
FIGHTER OF THE NIIGGGGGHHHTTTMMMAAAANNNN
darooster - January 11, 2012
Inspiration
kangsfan - January 11, 2012
Hmm... what's this?
swoosh91 - January 11, 2012
Masturbation cyber sex scene from Closer?
RECD!!
Ichiban - January 11, 2012
Anytime you can combine auto-erotica and free throw shooting it's a rec
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
yeah its like that
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Win!
CowbellKings - January 11, 2012
Perfect
rubenho - January 11, 2012
Haha awesome
CoolFinity - January 11, 2012
THATS AWESOME REC'D
1damutt - January 11, 2012
lmao
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
Dude! I just noticed the tail going limp at the end! lmao!
haglnuts - January 11, 2012
Runner-up for .Gif of the week? lol
VenomySnicket - January 11, 2012
Just dance!
kwlarson - January 11, 2012
I think Isiah found DMC on more pick and rolls tonight than Reke has in the past yearl
Loved the little man’s game. Absolutely loved it.
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
IT made his mark tonight!
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
rec'd or flagged...
not sure.
Shizzo - January 12, 2012
happy.
DiegoKing - January 11, 2012
Me too.
rubenho - January 11, 2012
What is this from?
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Livefeed from my place.
rubenho - January 11, 2012
Need a roomate?
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
You´re always welcome
rubenho - January 11, 2012
I got a Jimmer
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
That picture of IT is fantastic
He looks like hes doing a worlds most interesting man impression.
Deleran - January 11, 2012
I don’t play often, but when i do..I’m an effing baller son!
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
No thread like a DANCING THREAD
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
.
DiegoKing - January 11, 2012
Kings win?!?!?!!?!?
kwlarson - January 11, 2012
It's IT - Rockin the Purple!
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Are you a believer now BTE?
:P
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
yes on IT (see below)
still on TT (if
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
bah still NO on TT
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
I'm a bit more down on TT myself
He can’t seem to shake the injury bug. I’d rather have him than Hickson though.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
TT? Am i missing someone?Tyrus Thomas?
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
the most recent damnation I read applied to Tyrus was calling him a version of
Vince Carter (ouch!). Tons of talent, dust in the attic
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Yeah
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Dancing, dancing, dancing - oh yeah
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
Cant be a dance thread without some Beek
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Beek and SD = winning
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Dam straight.
VenomySnicket - January 11, 2012
VenomySnicket - January 11, 2012
Boom
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
Ice cream truck dance
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
I told you guys Isaiah was gonna be good!
I only caught the second half, but what I saw I really liked. Isaiah and DeMarcus had a great two man game going, and the Kings defense really stepped up. Tyreke wasn’t hitting his shots, but he got to the line, made those, and also did his best on the other end of the court.
Kings managed to win despite only shooting 37% and without two starters. This team can be a lot better than we’ve seen once they start to piece it together. Good win for this young team, hopefully the load is off our back and we can keep this momentum going into Houston and Dallas.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
I was about the biggest doubter
I am no longer. The Kid can shoot pass, control the floor, defend and charm it on the interview. He IS the best 60th ever!
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Amen!
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
and I am sticking with calling him It's IT®
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
IT20 now just for tonight..Usual nickname was IT2
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
BOOO to initials+jersey number nicknames, they're just lazy.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
It's NBA2K style
Just got my first endorsement from Jordan brand.
PV4
A Night At The Arco - January 11, 2012
Its not Initials + jersey..Its for who he was named after
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Ageed
The only exception is AK-47.
Sigh…
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
Well yeah that one is just Awesome
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Let's at least call him the IT-800 like in Terminator
I have been sent here from the future to win basketball games.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
Party foul!
You photoshopped him to the FEMALE Terminator! lol
haglnuts - January 11, 2012
No, this was definitely Arnold's T-800. Give me some credit.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
Nope, I'm pretty sure that's a Turboman doll.
swoosh91 - January 11, 2012
LOL. alright, maybe it's just Awnold's face that makes it masculine.
My bad. carry on. haha
haglnuts - January 12, 2012
We seem to play a lot better when he's on the floor
It highlights our need for a real distributor. Doesn’t hurt that he’s also a pesky defender. At this point, I’d have him ahead of Jimmer in the rotation as our 3rd guard off the bench (when Marcus returns).
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
meritocracy
absolutely. Jimmer hasn’t put it together – yet. He will come around ( I believe) but he will grow slower.
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Yep
I thought Jimmer looked a little bit more confident tonight, but was making poor decisions and still just didn’t look comfortable. Also his defense is as bad as advertised. But I still think he can and will become a good player.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
The ceilings for the two are around the same
sparkplug contributors, not stars, sometime starters
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
He was a complete surprise, tonight
Your were right about him. He could be the answer to our distributor problem. He’s a gutsy guy.
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
and thus when MT23 is out do you start Isaiah?
I say, with a kindly nod to the small sample-size institute, HELL YES. Thank you.
sj60615 - January 11, 2012
I would say maybe keep Jimmer in the starting lineup in the Marcus role as a gunner (when Marcus is out)
But keep Isaiah coming off the bench as the change of pace guy. I don’t think he’s a starter in this league, at least not yet, but he’s amazing energy and leadership off the bench.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
Yes
One of the most surprising things to me in Thomas is his defense. The kid can D up. His one no look assist to DMC was also tasty sweet.
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
now, a Billups or a Cassell type PG who knows how to post him up would pull him
but Jimmer isn’t going to do well with that either. We can call Thomas Boykins, Webb, or Nate but it is his man to man D that can separate him from those guys (that is what makes Augustin a starter, Nelson not so much but some, and for Mugsy as well though Bogues was a very talented distributor
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
I would like to see Thomas guard Paul and Nash. Not so much as a rookie but in the next couple of seasons
If he can do that, he can be a starter (but the type who will always have peeps wanting someone bigger).
You match him against the bigger athletic PGs – Rose, Westbrook, Parker, Willams and he is going to struggle a bit more because everyone does. If he can stay in front of them, they can jump over him but that would be better than most.l
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
How quick he is on those steals and blocked shots he jumps outta no where
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
The main problem as I saw it tonight was
time and again, Isaiah was able to penetrate the lane at such speed that the defense was forced to react, and this was giving the perimiter players wide open looks. As Jimmer is yet unable to distribute with the same accuracy at speed, and IT is shooting well, as a quick playmaking PG adds a sorely-needed dimension to our offense you have to go with Isaiah.
Small sample size noted , but tonight’s numbers for Jimmer and Thomas make the argument for themselves:
Min FG 3Pt FT +/- Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts
I. Thomas 23:41 6-12 3-6 5-5 +10 0 3 6 2 1 0 0 2 20
J. Fredette 27:17 3-10 2-6 2-2 -5 1 2 0 2 0 0 1 1 10
sj60615 - January 11, 2012
Ha! Problem for the Raptors I mean ;)
sj60615 - January 11, 2012
IT is the Smart move...
The only hope for the Kings winning this season is if IT can run the team like he did tonight — that is the only hope.
bobk3333 - January 11, 2012
these two will be splitting eachother's minutes all season
whoever is playing well will get the majority of the minutes. Tonight it was IT. Some games when Jimmer’s shot is falling, it will be him.
Wonderchild - January 11, 2012
Give the man an award for his performance tonight.
M. Thai - January 11, 2012
M. Thai - January 11, 2012
Only picture of him I hate
Bad memories…. grrrr
CoolFinity - January 11, 2012
Completely different (better) team with IT!
IT knows how to get the most out of Cuzz.
The more IT plays, the better he will get!
.
bobk3333 - January 11, 2012
Dance bitches!
rubenho - January 11, 2012
Thats awesome!
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
Ridiculous on so many levels lol
Scirocco - January 11, 2012
This. Lol.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
A spank train?!
At a ball game!
ItsALeagueGame - January 11, 2012
wow
this is seriously the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
mmarcum - January 11, 2012
Yo Bobby Hill, Kings their first road win! What do you say about that?
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
Kings Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now Dance Time
tonyfrmnatomas - January 11, 2012
.
Mike Garza - January 11, 2012
We need that driving gif with Isaiah in place of Omri
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
yup.
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
Who's Next
tonyfrmnatomas - January 11, 2012
Don't care if this screws my bandwith
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Boom Bitches! Run DMC dropping A Bombs on the raptors
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Can't teach that.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
This made me get off my couch and yell with him.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
If my neighbors could give technical fouls
I’d have been ejected after that play
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
I wish I saw that live.
swoosh91 - January 11, 2012
Worth the technical.
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
I think Jason Jones reported
That Cisco yelled “I’ll pay the fine for that one Cuz!” after the dunk.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
I was 100% ok with that technical
And if I had the money Cisco had, the check would already be in the mail LOL
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Holy shit
If you aren’t sporting half a chub, YOU DON’T LIKE KINGS BASKETBALL
darooster - January 11, 2012
Or
You’re a girl
darooster - January 11, 2012
Not necessarily so
No need for an anatomy lesson though.
Let’s just say I am sporting a Jimmer, the missus is sporting a Jimny (more for my John Salmons chin pubes than the Cuz stuff)
Crazy King Man from OZ - January 11, 2012
I know I have a penchant to be biased...
…but I don’t understand the T here. Can someone explain it to me?
nobodyinparticular - January 11, 2012
He yelled in Carters direction after giving him the crotch push of the century..They said it was taunting
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
I understood that was the call...
But I don’t understand how that can amount to taunting. Or am I just crazy?
nobodyinparticular - January 11, 2012
It’s because he stared right at him and did it..If he looked up and did it or backwards it would be fine. Its the intent of looking at the guy and doing it
Widowwolf - January 12, 2012
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
Damn early games!
Gonna watch this game now. Sounds like I have much to look forward to!
Wooo whooooooooooooo!!!
Dirkula - January 11, 2012
What did the Kings 5 fingers say to the Raptor? *SLAP*!!!!
Ichiban - January 11, 2012
What is this?
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
Not funny
< /rimshot >
swoosh91 - January 11, 2012
He's pissed that she doesn't let go at the right time in the spin!
Then he tries to play it off, like “oh shit, forgot we are in public!” Dude next to him is funny!
Dirkula - January 11, 2012
Can we all agree that Isiah should be getting a lot more of Jimmer's minutes?
No way Jimmer should be playing more. I’ve been an IT fan for awhile and have thought he should get more burn. This game confirms my feelings.
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
Wow. 1 game. As of yesterday, people were saying IT wasn't that good. Now he should take Jimmer's minutes.
IT is nice. His speed translates easier than Jimmer’s craftiness. Against the Raptors he looked very good. They will both have their ups and downs. I am sure they will both get burn and PT will be determined by who is playing better on a given night.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
I've been on the bandwagon that Jimmer is getting more minutes than he deserves
Never said Isaiah is the one who should pick up his minutes, but after this game.. he gets the edge.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Agree
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
well, Thomas performance tonight, in a win, was a reason to put him ahead of Jimmer because he changed the game, he added a wrinkle
Jimmer is not able to do that yet.
Politically and 7th pick investment-wise you have to play Jimmer more and more to give room to improve.
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Just think it is too early to say. Jimmer will take more time, but could bigger reward.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
I agree that Jimmer is the bigger reward
But it’s all about winning ball games at the moment and If IT. gets you them over Jimmer, then IT. plays.
Watching the two of them play, you can see that Jimmer has more potential, but until he hones it in and can prove he can play better and more consistent than IT. you play IT.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
If you are Coach Smart (or any Head Coach) you want, heck, you need to get wins
Thomas, today, not next season or later, will bring a different facet to the offense that Jimmer cannot yet produce. You have to give minutes to Thomas even if it cuts into Jimmer time a bit. And that doesn’t even count Marcus Thornton.
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
What about like it was tonight?
They both played fairly equal minutes, sort of switching off quarters and it seemed t work out. That way you leave room for Jimmer to hit his shots on a night that they start falling, and for IT to run the offense when it needs better leadership. Isiah has had bad nights, Jimmer obviously has too. I know Isiah was OUTSTANDING tonight, but I don’t know why people think he’s going to be that good every night, or why Jimmer will be this bad (as he has for the past 3 games). It’s so damn all or nothing on this thread and I don’t get it. Let’s respect both players and let them do their thing, especially when they’re hot.
feelgood - January 11, 2012
We fans have trouble seeing more than a game ahead, it's a passion driven blindness
But that said, Thomas made a difference tonight, Jimmer can contribute but he cannot yet add a new dimension to the team, which is what Thomas did tonight. Just giving credit where credit is due – not knocking Jimmer.
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
Well said
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
More scoring potential.
But IT plays better defense. Averaging 20 points a night doesnt mean much if your giving up 20 on the defensive end. That was 1 of the biggest complaints about K-Mart right before he got traded.
ridingthebench - January 11, 2012
While Jimmer isn't great on defense
I still don’t see him being as awful as his critics say. He’s no worse than Beno right now in his rookie season and I don’t question that his shot will start going in more often the more he plays.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Uh ....
… But he’s not Beno. Beno handles better, distributes better, generally shoots better, gets open for shots better … I’m pretty sure that if Beno played offense like Jimmer is right now, we’d have been mad at him all last season.
Charles L. Pierro - January 11, 2012
I guess I wasn't detailed enough in my response
I was responding to ridingthebench knock on Jimmer’s defense. To which, I say he’s no worse than Beno. Overall play, Beno still wins.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Ya maybe.
Though for the most part Jimmer has been guarding the bench second string guards. I think if we see him starting more often we will see opposing teams exposing Jimmer’s D. I can see IT preventing a Westbrook type guard from penetrating on a frequent basis but I think a guard of that speed would kill Jimmer.
ridingthebench - January 11, 2012
If any of our guards outside of Reke
guards Westbrook, they will get destroyed.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Uh huh
Westphal chased short term wins over long term player development and look how that turned out.
otis29 - January 12, 2012
Answer: he ended up with neither
otis29 - January 12, 2012
Who said IT wasn't that good?
Most people have been saying he should get more minutes since the 1st game he played.
ridingthebench - January 11, 2012
Go to last couple of game threads
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
I know I was.
IT has impressed me with effort since day one. The results that quickly followed effort impressed me even further. If he had been blessed with 6 more inches of height, he would have gone #1-5, not #60.
Charles L. Pierro - January 11, 2012
From what we saw tonight, I'll gladly take him as-is
NBA.com presents tonight’s Isaiah Thomas highlight reel:
http://www.nba.com/video/games/raptors/2012/01/11/0021100143_sac_tor_recap.nba
sj60615 - January 11, 2012
He isn't effective every game
Hence this talk of taking Jimmer’s spot is unfounded.
bignerd - January 11, 2012
Not just 1 game
I was a big fan of his at Washingtin, he made a lot of great plays and had a lot of impressive showings in his junior and senior year. Particularly in the PAC-10 tourney. I was shocked when he fell to 60 in the draft and I think he’s played smart basketball when given the chances.
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
No doubt. Love him. Great pick at 60, but let's not call this a KO in Round 2
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
I suppose
but it’s hard not to when Isiah looks like a mid-80’s Mike Tyson out there.
Kyle_B - January 11, 2012
We should take into consideration the opponent as well
The Raptors are awful.
otis29 - January 12, 2012
NOBODY on the Kings this year has been able to make the passes IT has made.
Sure it was only 1 game, but he thread the needle more times tonight then Reke has done all this season. Don’t get me wrong, I love Tyreke. I just think Reke is better suited at the 2. I say give IT these starting PG minutes til MT23 is healthy. Jimmer has showed time and time again that he dribbles into traffic, jumps and passes into trouble and has been rather careless with the ball. Im not saying he can’t be great, Im just saying IT is better now.
ridingthebench - January 11, 2012
He deserves minutes. Nice passer.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
See my comment below
It looked darned impressive tonight. And if he keeps it up, let him get the minutes. But at the moment he is worse than Jimmer per 36 in assists, shooting % on FT, FG, and 3pt, and he has slightly more turnovers. Considering that Jimmer is obviously not playing his best ball right now, I don’t think this is a no-brainer at all.
SavageBeast - January 11, 2012
Well said
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
this.
one game at a time right now. no need to get too high on one player or too low. take each game one quarter, one minute, one possession at a time.
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Yep, there's always tomorrow
And there are two ends to the floor. (repeat ad nauseum)
otis29 - January 12, 2012
1 game
I’d say no
bignerd - January 11, 2012
Love seeing Demarcus Cousins get 19 rebounds.
Such a badass.
Briceratops - January 11, 2012
Tonight he was awesome all around
rubenho - January 11, 2012
Most since 2006?
Who was Brad Miller(who had 21) is what they said on air.
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
2008
And he did it twice in a week that year
raiderking21 - January 11, 2012
20 points and 20 boards that is
raiderking21 - January 11, 2012
Hell ya!
He would get that many rebounds every night if he can stay out of foul trouble like he did today. In the 2nd half, the team as a whole had a hard time feeding Cousins or he probably would have scored more too. I credit IT to a few nice dishes,
ridingthebench - January 11, 2012
Road win? Jump on it!
GIFSoup
TitleChaser - January 11, 2012
Get down on it, Get down on it!
Widowwolf - January 11, 2012
I still do this dance after wins
bignerd - January 11, 2012
Isaiah goes off and no "Cold Blooded" references? For shame!
Really need to use this or a similar gif every big Isaiah game
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
sorry didn't mean for the last part to have a link
but if anyone wonders why the hell I am talkin about skiing on people’s lunches in my tag line, pretty funny
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
I did the 'what did the 5 fingers say to the face' joke already...
That count?
Ichiban - January 11, 2012
I was like the girl in the background
drex783 - January 11, 2012
Theres a stripper school?
I’ll watch a few classes
SharkKings49 - January 12, 2012
One in Rocklin
No males allowed
bignerd - January 12, 2012
Wow lets sue.
Class action with all the StR members. Shut that place down (or settle)!!!
caseycheesecake - January 12, 2012
I know I promised Kate Upton if we lost...
But we won very well. DMC and IT, Kate Upton is pleased with your performance.
HarveySpecter - January 11, 2012
HEEEEEELLLLL YYYEEEAAAAHHHH
darooster - January 11, 2012
check 'em
Balky Needs - January 11, 2012
and ... this is fing amazing
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
darooster - January 11, 2012
IT looked great tonight
And if he can keep this up, I think he will quickly pass Jimmer in minutes. But, before we are ready to call Jimmer a bust and Thomas our starting PG, be aware that Jimmer is ahead of Thomas in virtually every offensive per 36 stat, including: assists, FG%, FT%, 3 pt %, and has slightly fewer turnovers.
Thomas has more points, rebounds, and steals, and none of their stats are particularly impressive. So it’s not a wash.
I say, let the best man play. But one game does not a career make.
SavageBeast - January 11, 2012
Actually, I just checked the per-36's
And Thomas clearly exceeds Jimmer in every category, except he turns the ball over slightly more. I don’t think your per-36 numbers included last night’s game.
Still, agree overall that it’s one game. Against a crappy defense. Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves here.
otis29 - January 12, 2012
oddly enough
Raptors are crappier on offense this year then on defense
wallywagon11 - January 12, 2012
Yep
I guess it takes a while after the game for BBR to update it’s numbers. If Thomas keeps playing games like last night, it won’t matter anyway. That was a heck of a game.
SavageBeast - January 12, 2012
I haven't watched the game yet...
But it doesn’t mean I can’t dance!
Subcon - January 11, 2012
section214 - January 11, 2012
God damnit 214
I had one girl shimmying, and you had to one up me with 5 of them? :P
HarveySpecter - January 11, 2012
Still, rec'd.
HarveySpecter - January 11, 2012
Save Ferris!
Balky Needs - January 11, 2012
gold
pure pure gold
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
winner today
bignerd - January 11, 2012
just to let people know
we beat the raptors tonight. The raptors. The same team that has played 3 games in 3 nights and just lost to the wizards last night. and if Barignani plays the 4th who knows. So lets quit with the whole this is a different team thing. On a different note they dont seem to trust Jimmer on ther floor. Tyreke never passes to him no matter how open he is. If jimmer wants to make an impact he’s gonna start hitting some 3’s or he wont be in the rotation for much longer.
sacman - January 11, 2012
section214 - January 11, 2012
And the Oscar for best use of non-verbal communication goes to...section214
convoy - January 11, 2012
Open wide!
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
JediLeroy - January 12, 2012
My cheerios! You bastard!
Exhibit G - January 12, 2012
Who invited Betty Buzzkill?
HarveySpecter - January 11, 2012
just saying
lets not get to crazy thats all. houstons not much better, so hopefully we can get another W.
sacman - January 11, 2012
section214 - January 11, 2012
This what I think of your "happy" meal
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
sacman on the right
bignerd - January 11, 2012
This makes me laugh...
Sacto_J - January 12, 2012
making me look like a happy uplifting person
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Nothing Wrong
With a little reality check. I waiting a while before I drink the kool aid too.
nohops - January 11, 2012
no certaintly nothing wrong with it
but this is a time for dancing so let the people dance
(although yes crazy “we’re going to win the next 10 games now for real and everything is fixed” and “we need to start Player X” is a little overboard but haven’t really been hunting for those types of comments)
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Too high
For me. I’m waiting for a bit before I drink the kool aid.
nohops - January 11, 2012
Yeah I just scanned the gifs and picks to be honest
I am a big believer in stupid dane gifs and pics when there are wins. Seriously drinking koolaid and acting like we are going to steamroll the rest of the league or we know for sure X player is the real deal after one game not so much but then again I haven’t seen a ton of that (yet not looking so maybe wrong).
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
It's important that we make sports a passionless, emotionless enterprise as fans wally
Haven’t you heard?
otis29 - January 12, 2012
We also didn't have Hayes or Thorton
So what Section said.
Crocoduck - January 11, 2012
Okay, well he hit 2 of the team's 7 tonight...
He made 10 points on 10 shots….
Thornton usually makes around 20-23 on 20 shots….
Jimmer has had one of the best 3-point performances in a game this season (4-6)
I know he hasn’t been shooting great, but when you compare the numbers to someone like Thornton (our “leading” scorer), I guarantee he’s on track most games, despite his poor shooting, to get CLOSE to Thornton’s numbers IF he were to shoot 20+ shots a game. And this is with him shooting poorly, which he currently is.
I think people are blinded by the fact that they expect every shot of Jimmer’s to go in. A miss from Jimmer gets more attention than a miss from some others on the team. The Isiah>Jimmer argument follows the same logic. I think people don’t really realize their expectations for Jimmer are far greater, but in terms of their performance they’re pretty equal. And don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge Isiah fan.
feelgood - January 11, 2012
That's a load of crap.
Balky Needs - January 11, 2012
Thats just wrong man
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
and I thought I had a shitty day!
mtmoore55 - January 12, 2012
Side note...
Kings are 1-0 in games Travis Outlaw doesn’t play…
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
We get so little from our 3 spot
I’ve got a pretty good idea what position we’re gonna draft.
Deleran - January 11, 2012
Didn't we just do that?
otis29 - January 12, 2012
We can still hope for Barns
until we get screwed in the lotter that is
SharkKings49 - January 12, 2012
We are also 1-0 in games that Demarcus doesn't play.
But screw that, fire OUTLAW
feelgood - January 11, 2012
Valid point.
Yet Cousins has some above par games… meanwhile…outlaw….?
HeuristicLineup - January 11, 2012
Fire Outlaw
and his stupid glove.
Sacto_J - January 12, 2012
Amnesty him
Seriously.
4 more years of this shit?
chenp22 - January 12, 2012
Oh, Luther Head 2.0
Shizzo - January 12, 2012
Yes
but without the entertaining ridiculous pump fakes.
HeuristicLineup - January 12, 2012
Nor the perfect name for the butt of jokes
raiderking21 - January 12, 2012
The Raptors need to execute a 3 team trade with the Jazz and Hornets
Utah Raptors, New Orleans Jazz, Toronto Hornets. Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the current situation.
Deleran - January 11, 2012
New Orleans Jazz
Toronto Saurus
Utah Man
section214 - January 11, 2012
Ton of win!
betweentheeyes - January 11, 2012
You play for Euros?
rubenho - January 12, 2012
Utah Shit it's Cold and Toronto Shit it's colder, but we have more Beer
feelgood - January 11, 2012
Utah has beer...
It just sucks. 3.2% alcohol. 3.2%.
VenomySnicket - January 11, 2012
Thats not real beer then
SharkKings49 - January 12, 2012
John Salmons sucks
Smills9133 - January 11, 2012
Water is wet
section214 - January 11, 2012
Section's old
(sorry, there was no way I could not do it)
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
wally's banned
section214 - January 11, 2012
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
lol
DiegoKing - January 11, 2012
I kinda feel like becoming a Salmons troll ala Chapu4u
I mean, Salmons needs at least one fan right? LOL
raiderking21 - January 11, 2012
I stuck up for Salmons
I was expecting the last Salmons, not the guy a hair better than Outlaw.
bignerd - January 11, 2012
I'm not willing to write him off yet
But then again that’s just me, literally.
raiderking21 - January 11, 2012
We dont need anything special out of him...just solid.
And he was tonight. Only took 7 shots, 6 points, 3 steals. And he really didnt isolate with the ball a whole lot tonight. I am actually not hating Salmons after this game.
Wonderchild - January 12, 2012
JJ HIckson has the LOWEST bball IQ on the team
Thompson needs to start over him.
Smills9133 - January 11, 2012
Agreed
SoCal Diplomat - January 11, 2012
Every time he gets the ball with his back to the basket
he turns to face up.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
Jimmer vs IT
I’m from Jimmer’s hometown and am really concerned at how Jimmer is going to handle being a role player when for the last two years he had complete reign to do anything he wanted. That latitude allowed Jimmer enormous confidence that a shooter and scorer desparately needs In a limited role he’s struggling. He doesn’t know when to shoot and when not to. He doesn’t get the ball passed to him from Evans or Thornton unless they are totally stuck. He doesn’t play a lot of defense and when you’re averaging 8 pts per game it’s hard to ignore that. I don’t think the Kings will give Jimmer the ball as often as he needs it to develop confidence and am not sure if he’ll develop that instant offense off the bench he’ll need to to be effective. Tough fit right now, tough choice for the Kings. IT is actually playing better off the bench as a role player than Jimmer but I don’t think his ceiling is as high as Jimmer’s. It’ll be interesting to see how Coach Smart tries to bring Jimmer along or to see if he eventually stops playing him. Selfishly I’d like to see him with the ball more and shooting more, it what he does, it’s what he’s good at.
bankers hours - January 11, 2012
Win is a win
IT! IT! IT!
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Well then......
Jimmer needs to man-up like IT. Plain & simple. He was drafted #7 because he is a baller. Start balling young man. No one is going to put you down for doing what you were brought here to do. Right now we don’t have a real star you should be deferring to. There’s no Lebron or Wade on this team. You don’t need to be Mario Chalmers.
Allbenji - January 11, 2012 via mobile
Agree completely
He controls his own destiny. Can’t be shy, get up in Evans face and demand the ball.
nohops - January 11, 2012
the man does have a 20% usage rate
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Statistics?
nohops - January 11, 2012
yes
actually doesn’t include this game though
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
I believe
It’s a confidence issue.
nohops - January 11, 2012
I like what he is trying to do
but personally have a feeling it’s a little more than just confidence or perhaps a better way to say it is that he has reasons for confidence issues because his hesitation dribble isn’t explosive enough and he is going to struggle driving to the hoop like he did in college. Think his bread and butter in the NBA would be the pick and roll but the whole team in Sac is struggling with that.
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Agreed
But when Tyreke slashes to the lane and two perimeter defenders converge it isn’t a stretch to think Jimmer couldn’t hit a three when his man isn’t within 5 feet.
nohops - January 11, 2012
I've notice Jimmer doesn't tend to be in the corners
and Reke usually drives at a 90 degree angle to the baseline. It is hard for Reke to find him when he is over his shoulder. I think the 2 of them will figure it out, but how many times did IT get open corner looks and he playes the same spot as Fredette?
ElRonToro - January 11, 2012
I've given up on hope with Reke on that
there are times where he has his back completely turned away from the hoop and can’t even see the hoop and has an even better view of the open man and he decides to shoot it even though others are blatantly open. Maybe he assumes he’s goin to get the foul call or thinks nobody can hit a 3 I dunno but for whatever reason he keeps on doing it
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
I agree with this, but his blind shot is still better than his dreaded jump-pass
To me, this is an issue of Tyreke’s inability to recognize where help defense is coming from earlier in his drive. If he were better at finding help defenders, he would be able to make the pass sooner, before he fully commits to a layup attempt.
If he made an extra move, like a stutter step, or 12 foot jumper after he turned the corner, it could draw out help defenders better.
Wonderchild - January 12, 2012
actually
in college jimmer was pretty good at driving to the hoop. Its driving to the hoop in the NBA that he struggles with
mmarcum - January 11, 2012
Sorry what I meant was he is going to struggle to be as successful at driving to the hoop like he did in college. Or, unlike in college where he was succesful in driving to the hoop, he is going to struggle in the NBA.
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
This is an issue of his defenders recovering quicker.
Also doesnt help that he has SG’s like Batum or Evan Turner guarding him on most nights because he is in the backcourt with IT or Thornton often.
Wonderchild - January 12, 2012
Still at 20 after this game
otis29 - January 12, 2012
and if you want to pay up for synergy
it breaks down every single possession a player has
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
Wow
The excitement generated by a road win versus a mediocre team. This is a fan base starving for some sign of hope.
nohops - January 11, 2012
Bitch you don't know my life
Jk, Baby Mama quote
feelgood - January 11, 2012
section214 - January 11, 2012
I dunno if you noticed nohops
but we’ve been doing the whole happy gif things after wins regardless of the opponent for awhile now.
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
I'm just not a multi-tasker
Basically, I don’t worry about the rent being due when I’m in the middle of getting laid. But maybe that’s just me.
section214 - January 11, 2012
Couldn't we have Section fill in for JR instead of Waltong 5 games a season?
I just want to see Grant’s head explode when Section drops lines like this every game.
SPTSJUNKIE - January 11, 2012
You can remember that far back?
HighTops - January 11, 2012
Zing!
Rickyflip - January 12, 2012
Just last night, buddy
And had anyone been there with me I could authenticate it.
section214 - January 12, 2012
lolz
Shizzo - January 12, 2012
these threads after winds are the ones
where being overly excited is kind of the whole theme.
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
*wins
yikes!
wallywagon11 - January 11, 2012
I haven't frequented
this board enough to understand the native habits.
nohops - January 11, 2012
We're desperate, delusional bastards.
That is all.
Shizzo - January 12, 2012
Because there haven't been many.
So we have to cherish the ones we have.
Aykis16 - January 11, 2012
Fun Fact
Tyreke Evans is 45-52 line (87%) since his late night free throw fest.
section214 - January 11, 2012
You read it here, folks.
Balky Needs - January 11, 2012
if that's the trick the whole team needs to do late night 2 AM offensive drills
feelgood - January 11, 2012
Lawls.
SoCal Diplomat - January 11, 2012
Breaking news: Demarcus Cousins stays up late until 2AM practicing 400 layups and putback attempts
One can hope right?
Wonderchild - January 12, 2012
Just got home
I’ve yet to watch the game but i’m honestly kinda surprised. Happy to see DMC put up beast numbers and Tyreke having a good scoring night oh and OUTLAW NOT PLAYING!!!!! Woo-hooo!!! FINALLY! But i’m reeeeally surprised that IT had the game that he did. That was totally unexpected and I was one of his biggest doubters. I was disappointed in Jimmer’s numbers specifically the lack of any assists and JJ still getting wayyy to many minutes and shooting horribly as always. BUTTTT pretty damn happy that we pulled out the win tonight. Now to watch the game for myself :)
SoCal Diplomat - January 11, 2012
The thing that was
Most encouraging was the fact that this team seemed to like each other tonight. That’s gotta be a “Smart” thing.
nohops - January 11, 2012
Ugh
Salmons still logging 30 minutes I see
SoCal Diplomat - January 11, 2012
Log is a very appropriate word
section214 - January 11, 2012
Salmon Log
drock1331 - January 11, 2012
What did the man
Eat? That diet needs some work…
nohops - January 11, 2012
Im going to get sick.
Slam_Dunk - January 11, 2012
section214 - January 11, 2012
file:///hilariouskings.gif
Since'89 - January 11, 2012
welll that didnt work, dont know how to post a gif
Since'89 - January 11, 2012
Clicking the tree looking thing in the box and pasting in your line works.
CowbellKings - January 11, 2012
You need a URL so it has to be on the web
CowbellKings - January 11, 2012
Click the link button..
elSAVinator - January 11, 2012
Isaiah, Tyreke & DMC
70 points on 19-45 shooting/ 29 rebounds/ 9 assists/ 4 steals/ 1 block/ 8 TOs in 108 mins
Everybody else:
28 points on 11-36 shooting/ 19 rebounds/ 4 assists/ 5 steals/ 2 blocks/ 8 TOs in 132 mins
If Isiah hadn’t gone off, this game has a different ending.
Deleran - January 11, 2012
Maybe, maybe not
otis29 - January 12, 2012
so....
When do start giving all of Jimmer’s minutes to IT?
JVinci - January 11, 2012
Saturday, if Thornton is still out
Might be a good time to tinker with the prospect of starting IT at point.
convoy - January 11, 2012
I say we do it even if Thorton is back
there is no shame in not starting Thorton his first game back from injury. We should just see how it goes with IT at point.
rmgordon4 - January 12, 2012
Ya let us shatter Jimmers confidence completely :(
Ultrakingsfan - January 12, 2012
:)
Great win Kings! I must say I love all these GIFS they make me laugh so much
dspohn55 - January 12, 2012
Woot =D
TheFault - January 12, 2012
crazy charmander is awesome!
'tough as nails' spence - January 12, 2012
Couldn't find a gif, but oh well
luckthefakers - January 12, 2012
Works...he has the moves.
Slam_Dunk - January 12, 2012
I predicted Cousins going 20/20
At the start of the game in Thread 1 so I was dying for the Raptors to miss one of those late gimmies so he could corral his 20th board. I would have felt like Donte on the Tyreke shot if he had. Still though, great win and great performance. I think DMC needs to be our #1 option.
rockrichmond2 - January 12, 2012 via mobile
I'm just glad he didnt go all Ricky Davis to get stat accomplishments
Forcing a shot up and rebounding it for his last rebound.
Wonderchild - January 12, 2012
Looks like he wanted to.
caseycheesecake - January 12, 2012
Kings win!
Exhibit G - January 12, 2012
It's the little things
What I liked most about IT’s game last night is that he had multiple plays where he made fundamentally sound/smart decisions. In one instance, he caught the ball behind the 3 point line and gave a shot fake, which caused the defender to fly by. Instead of rushing a 3 before the defender could recover, he calmly took one dribble/step toward the basket and launched a nice an easy 18-19 foot jumper (I don’t remember if he made it, but it was still a nice play).
In the other instance that stood out for me, he was penetrating and looked off Kleiza (I believe it was Kleiza) to make it appear that he was going to kick it to the King spotting up for in the corner for 3. Right as Kleiza committed himself to the spot up shooter, he whipped the pass to a cutting DMC for the dunk. Very nice.
As for DMC, he’s had his lazy moments (think transition D), but the dude puts forth effort. There’s no denying that. Two plays stood out for me along those lines. The first was the O board where he muscled the toronto player right out of the way to get the put back and the foul. The second was the help he provided on a nice BLOB play by Toronto. Basically, IT got caught up in a series of picks and his man ended up coming free along the baseline. DMC saw this, jumped out at the shooter, and ultimately altered the shot (which was missed). So, a shot that could’ve been a wide open look was contested and ended up being missed. Effort plays. Keep doing it DMC!
Let’s hope this builds some momentum for Friday!
outrider - January 12, 2012
And lest I forget
Tyreke actually shot a pull up jumper! After falling out of my chair, I rewound the DVR several times and confirmed that it was actually him. Nice little pull up from the free throw line. Will miracles never cease?
outrider - January 12, 2012
In case you didn't know, DMC had chest conjestion and was coughing before during and after the game
and playing 36 minutes he might have been somewhat winded.
HighTops - January 12, 2012
Thanks, I had no idea
He looked beat at the end. Great game for the young guy though.
otis29 - January 12, 2012
As far as his transition D goes
I was thinking of a couple of earlier games where his transition D was slow and he’s wasn’t the only culprit in those games. Didn’t seem like an issue last night.
outrider - January 12, 2012
So if Im right
Petrie traded Brockman for Darnell Jackson and Isaiah Thomas ….. good job, Petrie.
Dub_TC - January 12, 2012
Yeah funnily enough…I love me some Brockness, but Isaiah is gonna be a lot more helpful to this teams succession to the throne
Widowwolf - January 12, 2012
Smart was smart
Playing the hot hand in IT and riding it, playing Tyreke 45 minutes and Cousins 39 minutes and giving Donte and Garcia some burn instead of Salmons in the fourth quarter. Cousins was a beast, IT provided the inspiration and Tyreke the guts.
Donte may be a better fit than Salmons at the 3.
Toronto isn’t very good.
NewEraKings - January 12, 2012
Donté stood out to me this game, as well.
Maybe he realizes he has a clean slate and that there are SF minutes ripe for the plucking on this team. I saw him actually working for rebounds, active on both ends of the floor, not doing anything dumb. If he can bring focus and energy and make a positive impact while he’s out there, he’ll earn minutes on this team and probably secure his immediate future in this league (which I don’t think is a certainty for Donté, unfortunately). Basically, he should be emulating how his buddy JT is handling things right now.
AnotherStupidSN - January 12, 2012
I'm pretty sure Smart used Donte at the 4 to defend Bargnani and Klieza.
It’s easier to get rebounds when your defending a player that takes shots in close rather than long 2’s and 3’s. I think that Donte did actually have a Def Reb Rating of 20 which is quite good. Also, playing the 4 and being responsible for rebounding instead of playing a wing position whose responsibility it is to get back and stop the fast break also helps your rebounding numbers.
But, even if Donte gets his PT at the stretch 4, I’d be happy. I think what this team needs is a 4 that can stretch the defense by hitting some outside shots. It works for Orlando with Ryan Anderson. He pulls the defender out deep and allows Howard to go one on one in the paint.
HighTops - January 13, 2012
So, if that's what we need from our 4, what do we need from our 3?
Would having a stretch 4 in the starting lineup make it easier to have ‘Reke as our starting SF (alongside MT at 2 and IT/acquired “true PG” at 1)? Maybe that way Donté (or a different stretch 4) could guard the bigger, better SFs and let ’Reke guard the opposing 4 if they’re not an offensive threat.
AnotherStupidSN - January 13, 2012
In this game and in the Lakers game, particularly, I thought Demarcus played like he suddenly realized "Hey, I'm a big effing dude".
When he plays like he’s the biggest guy on the court and forces the other team to figure out how to handle his size (don’t say it!) and he still pulls down boards and draws fouls like crazy, that’s when he’s winning games for this team. I’ve always thought that Cuz was a very smart player, but I think he’s starting to figure out how to be a crafty player, and I actually see him starting to get the refs on his side more often. I’ve said it before, when I see Big Cuz playing like a crafty brute with soft hands frustrating the hell out of the other team, I get Shaq flashbacks (flashshaqs? Shaqbacks?) and daydreams of Shaq’s hardware in our future.
AnotherStupidSN - January 12, 2012
Exactly right
Even Grant and Jerry were laughing about how DMC was pushing the Toronto bigs around. It might actually be a good idea as a teaching tool for the coaching staff to put together a highlight reel of vintage Shaq and how he operated in the low post and have DMC study it. Shaq was a once in a generation level of size, athleticism and skill, but with his size and skill DMC could certainly be a Shaq like beast on the blocks if he puts it all together. He doesn’t have a Shaq level of athleticism, but I certainly think he could compensate if he ramps up the craftiness.
outrider - January 12, 2012
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