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Kings vs. Wolves: Open Game Thread II

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Hey here we go!

first!

Nice try…Now go sit in the bench!

triple double for reke anyone?
tripple double for salmons
Unleash

the Jimmer.

I FORGOT TO SET MY DVR!!!

Who is doing good and bad?

I'll give you one guess.....
i think DMC is still not 100% healthy
Whats wrong with him?
Wolves have the lead
Evans make a shot yet?
come on jonathan

I don’t know if I like Smart’s hesitancy to sub out players

Refs starting to get bad
well the other way

they were bad earlier, but in the Kings favor

z

If you guys are gonna keep fouling him , at least get him in the kidney..Streetball time

The Rim

Is getting smaller on our side of the court yikes here comes the twolves run lets hope they hold on

I saw no foul there
Hickson for Love

Straight up

Salmons getting too confident
Ellington's jumper looks so smooth
why is it

that every time someone is isolated in the high post area, three other kings are are standing on the weak side within a foot of each other not doing anything

Wonder if IT will be seeing any minutes
No minutes in first half

Maybe no minutes in second

Beginning to look that way.
not a good finish to the quarter
So... They win the first...

We won the 2nd…

They won the 3rd…

So we win the 4th!

I’m down with that. Hope to see bench players at 1-3

Hopefully

with 6 or more points.

MT23 needs to sit down
gota stop fouling so much
Thorton .....really?

we’ll probably lose by 8-9points..ugh

4 Ast in the 3rd Qt

That’s why we are losing now

4th quarter

tyreke time baby

What has happened to Tyreke's shooting this game?

1-9? Who’s guarding him? The entire city of Minneapolis?

he keeps rimming out.

Don´t forget Luke
The Wolves are clogging the paint and his jump shot isn't falling tonight
MT, Salmons, Hickson

These guys need to learn to play off the ball instead of calling their own numbers so often.

JT

is more on the floor than on his feet and never gets a call.

Yeah…Its pissing me off Love is manhandling everyone and is barely getting called on it.Reminds me of Shaq

Gotta say.

I am NOT a Thornton fan. Ballhog…

2nd on the team in assists tonight
He is not doing this season what he did last season
The Kings need someone else to step up

even Salmons and Cousins with low point totals…

Kings always lose the third quarter

What else is new

is jt getting fouled under the rim or is he floppin?
May be outmuscled

by Wolve bigs

out muscled by love i get but pekabitch?
I gotta say this looks like a better coached,more focused team than a couple of weeks ago
0 Minutes for Outlaw

That means we win right. Thought that was a rule

God I want this Blake Shelton convert to be over so I can stop having to sit through that commercial
Agreed
We need more VSP vision commercials
I'd rather chill with Salmons for a day than watch more VSP commercials.

The acting is just remarkable.

What NBA team has the hottest cheerleaders?
apparently not the wolves
They all look the same.
Kind of agree with you on that.
Let's go--35 point quarter. Hold them to 20.
Sounds Good

on Paper

Love is getting in deep post position. Gotta deny him the ball further out
Considering he is able to push everyone around as he wants

it’s kinda hard

We just let Pekovic do the same
If we keep fouling we're done

KAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!

not a fan of this current lineup to start either
10 assist Tyreke!
Well, at least that means someone is scoring.

We need scoring!

that's complimentary basketball!
REKE

10 Ast he is a PG!!!

thompson got away with 2 fouls there
Wow. Players move off ball. Evans gets assists. Amazing.
Did he say 2 3's all night for us?
What the fuck was that Thornton?
didn't the shot clock expire?

No it was a turnover

No Wayne Ellington had possession.
WTF Thornton?

Take him out.

Thonton WTF…You getting trained by Mikki Moore

our shot clock management needs work.
could be worse ,could have Jamal Crawford
Thornton is a thorn in my ass
Shot clock Killer Fredette
good hustle back, JT
I would say that was a pass

But it was Marcus.

MT is pissing me off. Him and Jimmer. Yuck.
jt is a solid role player
Nice follow through JT
JT mopped it up.

What is with Thorton this season?

Nice pass....er shit shot Thorton
Jt running the floor
I wouldn´t mind if Thornton gave a sh*t
He's shooting like sh*t

so he’s halfway there?

Mr. compromise
Donte giving the T-Wolves INFERNO!
It's quiet in here!

Where is everybody?

Watchin okc and Boston?

Nice job there..Lets do that more!

Thornton playing selfish right now

THOMPSON
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JIMMER!!!

NICE PASS!!

THOMPSOOOON!!

Not enough exclamation points there
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JT says "GIMME THAT ONE!"
Jimmer to JT for the slam!
JT

O MY throw it down big man

Wow JT!!!!!

That was a highlight

a 1-point game, still winnable
This is why we pass!
Man I love JT!
18 Ast

Season High???

I think 16 was our previous high
Didn't Rondo have an 18 assist game this year?
JT wants minutes
JT throws it down!

Thornton still gives pouty face

thornton is definitely pouty tonight
We should start a new meme thread

Obama creates world peace!
Thornton still gives pouty face

Why does it look so hard for Jimmer to pass the ball on the perimeter?

Every time he passes it in a half court set, he is picking up his dribble, pivoting on one foot, and leaning to get the pass off.

He has a really bad tendency to jump before he passes a lot too, which I haven’t been able to highlight tonight so that’s good.

At least he tries to pass it

Wow!!

Jimmer can pass the ball!!

1 pass does not a PG make him

He had a couple of nice passes earlier. JT got blocked on two shots down low.
Yeah. He is a good passer.
We needed that!
JT should exercise his authorit-I like that

every time he thinks of shooting a 2 foot shot.

Salmons

Only Starter in game FYI

Put IT in for Martin Lawrence lookin pouty face
That play started with Salmons threading the needle to Jimmer
nothing like having 20 people do play by play
Ya, never understand why people do that.
need to keep the post counts high
nothing like having 20 people do play by play
they dont set any screens uptop for jimmer

they are forcing him to try and create. rubio and luke get screens up top every time. good screens

Start JT

and Cisco.

You know he is 4th big

When Hayes returns

Should be 3rd..Over JJ

Season high in assists with 18
I dont understand the offensive philosophy
It's meant to be offensive to us fans,

which is improvement from PW’s time – where it was meant to be nauseating.

Seems to be competition for best ball hog

rebound and get the runs...i mean get the rebound and run...
Gotta make those Jimmer
That was a good look for Jimmer
Wish Jimmer would have made that shot.
garcia shoulda shot that
Dammit, we need you to hit that, Jimmer
Dont care

That is the 1st time he didn’t Hesitate

Love that the fans are yelling for Jimmer to shoot
Jimmer cant shoot
Open 3 *palm to forehead*
lol

i wanna slap the shit out of audience yellin at jimmer

And there was the lack of confidence from jimmer

Wide open after the first missed wide open three and dribbles it out…

At least he made the fade

nice kick block
fans yelling for Jimmer to shoot.

He silences them with a 2.

LOL

People shouting at Jimmer ‘SHOOT IT’

I was yelling for him to shoot it.
At first I thought it was Francisco

that would have been funny

Ive been to 2 games so far this year,

And no matter where Jimmer is people yell shoot it! No matter where on court haha

Maybe we're all wrong.

Maybe jimmer needs to just shoot difficult 2s. He appears to do better with those.

It's because you don't think as much with those shots

you just do it. With wide open threes I think he is thinking too much on them

Kevin Martin move for Ricky Ricardo.
The Spanish Justin Bieber at the line
IT!!!

PLEASE!!!

Shooooooot Herrrrrrrrrrrr! Shoooooooot Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Muldoon watching Jimmer

Ridinour looks like a janitor.
I wish he would play like one.
game time you fools!
Good effort by Greene by what the hell was Salmons doing?
Donte

Was trying to murder someone with the ball

Donte Greene cleans up Salmon stank!
Damn. I thought Donte hit his head on the backboard for a sec.
Love, Y U Compplain every foul!
Whenever Salmons is on the floor, its like he's on a different team. Either the Kings take an offensive possession or Salmons does
salmons showing him Benny the greatest of all time
*being
I'm so fucking sick of Salmons I could puke
The weakened player should just crash the rim

Whenever salmons or Tyreke shoots.

I liked salmons pivot, pivot, pivot, fade!
Donte knew no way fish makes that
I hate the one guy dribble out the clock offense
Donte was anticipating that dunk tip because he saw Salmons was shooting it

and knew it was a miss

12/20 at the line tonight

Reverting to normal

Can we get Reke and Cousins in please

Wow… Donte..

DONTE

U lucky u made that

I really don't like Smart's rotation
we are not a good team.

we dont have 5 intelligent players on the team

It's the time that you get your good players in right now

the game is slipping because only the bench is in. Jimmer and Salmons should not be in right now if we want to get back in it

We’ll see how Evans contributes

We got to get stops on D.

Salmons WTF you under the basket..

Rubio can get past jimmer whenever he wants

Thats why IT needs to be in

Oh, but I thought Jimmer's defense was "impressing" people
Jimmer has actually been doing good for most of the game.
Rubio has had a pretty bad game though
What game r u watching?
Ellington with a dagger every time
We need to play Smart.

In place of Salmons..I am in

oh man....

here comes the loss… they better pull it together

Final 6 mins.

time for DMC & Reke please.

And maybe IT to torch some tired legs.

DMC yes. Dunno about Evans

Yeah,

Why put in the guy that has 10 of the team’s 18 assists?

Donte playing with more spark than Ive seen in awhile.
Groundhog Day...

Groundhog Day…

Reke Thornton Cousins

at least one if not two of them should be on the floor at all times.

DOn't like the rotation

All of our ball dominant players as starters all of the roleplayers on the bench. Mix it up

Ellington is killin us

Killing.

Ellington for Salmons
a ham sanwhich for Salmons
Honestly

this is what u can hope on the road a little under 6 minutes left game is not out of reach and a chance to win on the road. But i really wanna dance

DEFENSE, coach. DEFENSE. Did I mention DEFENSE?
I've never hated a Kings player more than I hate John Salmons.

I’m seriously trying to rack my brain for someone but I can’t think of anyone. Maybe KT but at least he played a good stretch of ball when we first acquired him.

I agree

He makes me rage.

where the hell is IT
Needs to be answered

I hate Fredette as much as the next guy.

Wrong night to start missing freethrows
reke is back in

game is officially over

?

Trollish. Evans has 10 of the 18 team assists, plus 7 boards. Not shooting well, but making up for it in other ways.

LOL

These game threads get comical

Ya he has been actually doing a great job of running the offense today

it’s mind boggling that thornton is bringing it up right now. It explains why we are falling back

Where the heck is the poise?

You could’ve had an open 3 in the corner instrad you dont hold on to the ball… smh

Is it too late to throw IT into this now?
Wolves pulling away with the 3
wow jimmer's +/- +9

cant believe it

Thought Fredette was solid tonite
hickson from a half step inside the 3 point line...
Still single digits
You blink and this team is down by 9
getting away from the Kings here
Love gets away with a lot of fouls.
3 ball killing us, defend it better, Kings.
Rubio's shooting abillity better than Jimmer's
god wolves bigs fouling on every rebound.
Can't have that third quarter lapse.

Or the missed free throws.

I'll live with that shot with Rubio.
Love and Ridnour

both with double-doubles potentially?

Heres the collapse.

fuck me

Crap, crap, crap

We need a run.

we are being run out of the building now... that counts
Wolves running away with it now
God damnit Hickson. Can't hit midrange, can't catch a ball, useless
Rubio around Thorton @ will
Nice pass by Reke.

We needed the Defense to get us running. Can’t stop them.

teammbasketball wins
Another great pass by Evans
Nice dish from Tyreke
Terrible shot Reke

Even though it went in

Need that basket from Reke.

Need stops and tyreke to go on a tear

those fouling motherfucks

Cousins getting beat up out there

Sick of all these low percentage shots we’re getting

We've gotten plenty of high percentage shots, we've just hit a low percentage of them
Their bigs have been clocking us all night.

Finally we get a call on a rebound.

Kings gotta bang back
Have you seen the way they call fouls on Cousins?

Not really an option

Why do you think we have so many fouls

oh know! why do purple jerseys fly all over everytime the ball comes off the rim?
pekabitch doin that everytime...effin bs
Professor Youngman. HA!
It takes an injury for them to finally call a foul

this is just irresponsible officiating

Pek has hardly gotten any burn at all until this game

I do not doubt for a second he’s in there to rough everyone up

Just can't rely on our offense in close games.

It still looks like five severed chicken heads.

We need to play some defense and go on a lil run.

Go Kings!

Funny how Minnesota plays off Love while Kings take one-on-one jumper. Minnesota plays like a team now on both ends while the Kings don’t

Minny has an very good coach
This is probably the biggest change

Rambis is the worst coach I’ve seen in MN sports, ever

Tyreke Evans is pretty good.
Jimmer's 3PM-A

0-3

IT PLEASE…

3-6 overall....get IT in for MT
Our perimeter defense is so bad
That was not D Up.
What happened to the Kings?

they were playing so well…

Don't worry about guarding Luke

he hasnt done shit tonight

lol

He always kills us,
Sonics

Few fast breaks

Half court offense inconsistent

goddamn salmons
Thorton who the fuck r u guarding?????
Give the ball to F'N reke
and there he goes

go to a zone and give up a three….

We will never win with Salmons in the game.
Defending the 3 ball is an issue obviously among many other things...
that might be the dagger
Why are we leaving shooters by their lonesome?

Smart play by Luke.

I hate that I can't even get excited about this fucking team anymore
Oh calm down.

Sadly, the T-Wolves are better than us. Sadly.

Jack em if you got em.
49ers!

49ers!!!!!

Tickets on sale Wednesday!!!!

Only 4000 a ticket!

There ya go Cisco
Looks like I win the rotten fish tonight

Said they would lose by at least, but close to 10 points

Ridnour does it again...
It's inteesti
Interesting that the flashes on the glossy floor only happen

When the kings have the ball.

are you kidding me right now
I have a brilliant idea!!

Lets leave their best three point shoot, wide open!

Leave luke again

complete idiots on this team. Blow them up start over. Trade the entire team.

We're making Ridinour look like Steve Nash
jimmer

+9 today.

Luke looks like a superstar tonight
We need Jimmer to play like Ridenour.
We need Jimmer to play
Wow that was embarassing
ridnour - n = rid our

Hopes

Nice try, I guess.
What a rip off.

Never should’ve bought season tickets this year. Won’t do it again without major changes, that’s for sure.

Trade Jimmer for Ridnour
Lol.

Watch Adelman and the passing skills of Ricky turn him into an all-star

Thornton tries to pass and..
Welp, at least they kept it competitive.

we scored over 60 too, yay!!

rubio

is shooting 55% from 3 this year

Actually 45.5% coming into tonight

Still pretty good.

true my bad i did mean 45
Play time in Europe

seems to have made a big difference

at least reke is trying to be a facilitator
Minnesota too lucky to handle..

But that was a competitive game before they became lucky..

lucky or shitty on the part of the kings?
Did the refs play a big part in this second half or did it just look that way on the boxscore?
It's been pretty lopsided

Well yeah Love is on the floor

kings got 1st half wolves got calls or lack thereof in2nd half
Now watch Petrie

trade for Luke Ridnour…

Just leave the floor kings…Dont come back..You arent playing offense or defense anyways

suddenly we are going to lose by 20.

39 and now 20. sick.

No dancing gifs tonight
lol, now it looks even worse than it basically was

….although it was pretty bad honestly

Tyreke

Need 1 pt 2 Rebs for the triple double positive

This is very important

Anthony Tolliver.. Wayne Ellington.. These are the names that are beating us?! only our Kings...
Don't forget Luke Ridnour
Sign Smart to an extension right now!!!
at least Love didn't get 30 and 20.

31 and 11.

Good play finding Cisco for 3

But Ridnour responds with a 3… Game looks over as team play trumps one-on-one.

Watching Ridnour play… he’s just solid. Making Beno Udrih look incredibly underrated right now.

This team needs to be blown up from top to bottom. No one on this team should be safe.

JT

no one is safe.

nah we just need a passing guard.

no one should be safe. A passing guard wouldn’t save this team if his teammates don’t even know where to be or how to move with out the ball.

well it would freakin help if we had someone who knew how to and wanted to pass youd have to be a moron to disagree with that.

I agree that a pass first guard is needed. But I think he would need smart teammates around him that will know to be in the spot that they need to be in for that guard to find them. I just don’t see those players on this team.

agreed

we absolutely cannot be any worse then this team is now.

Our one pass offense just doesnt cut it.

ive seen better basketball on the and 1 mixtapes

thats because they pass.
lol @ this offense

lol @ taking on more money for a terrible player while getting rid of the only true point guard on the team.

Tyreke had a good game (screw his FG%), IT should play more than Jimmer, not 0 minutes...

Don’t see why IT and fredette can’t come off bemch and play at the same time.

Fun fact

Salmons is now under 20% from 3 (starting SF)

Shooting more than 3 a game btw
18.6% after tonight
Somewhere Paul Westphal is having a good laugh
He's still collecting a paycheck from the Kings organization but doesn't have to deal with this mess
glad hes out of here that douche

No beasley or JJ tonight and we gotta smoked like a horrible joint

When do we get the Wizards?
idk about that game...
wizards get first pick in draft

Kings will be second.

Sweet, a second overall pick for once!
Only if the draft was run like the NFL

Of course then it might be the other way around

This is why I complained about the rotation

They got on a run because our scrubs (relative) were all playing the 4th and he just left them all in there. It’s happened multiple times now where I’m wondering why our main guys are on the bench

we get beat by other Team's scrubs anyways
If Reke and DMC and JT were back in at the beginning of that last run instead of the end of it

We have a chance to win. Leaving Jimmer Salmons and Cisco out there at the 5 minute mark is just terrible

Petrie should be fired

solely based on the jimmer/salmons fiasco

Yup. Judge a rookie 15 games into the season.

I bet Jazz fans are glad you weren’t GM so you could trade away John Stockton. And Mavs fans glad you weren’t GM so you could give up on Nash.

IT and Garcia should get more playing time
Less Jimmer/Salmons more IT/Garcia

not over 100
at least there is that

that's it, sorry guys
What's wrong with DMC??
He sprained his ankle I think

He got murdered by Love all night long…Reminds me of a nerdy white guy walking down the wrong alley

They were letting Love bang him around, and he couldn'
t hit back.

That’s what you get when Refs make calls based on reputation, something I think needs to be examined. Refs should get fined for bad calls.

1 and 4 roadtrip.
Of course Fish

was going to shoot it

Time to play SC3 ..At least there i know there’s a win

This thread got ugly fast. lol
not as ugly as that game
Not as fast as the Kings folded...
Petrie should be fired, this season is a disaster.

I am not going to pay one dime to go to any of the home games this season.

agreed.

entire team shouldn’t be safe. The whole organization needs a change.

It starts from the owners!
Yup. How to get rid of them?

thats going to be hard unless someone gives them an offer they can’t refuse.

leave a horse's head in their bed?
Salmons has missed 27 3's in a row

think about that, how is that even possible??

He'c consistant at least
lol

I dont even want him to make one anymore… I want to see records broken

Just for shits, I went out this morning and shot 30 NBA 3 pointers and I made 12.

Sign me.

Feel so bad.. see ya on the 2012 Rookie Draft
We as kings fans have been following the draft for how many years now? haha
IT in Smart's doghouse or what?
Didn't get to watch the game myself, but wondered the same when I checked the box score

I think Smart’s philosophy is to play only 8 players in any given game. Regardless of how they do

JUMBACO!!!
That pretty much sums up the way I feel.
this is really, really sad

Changes need to be made soon

fire westphal??
Right!

Oh we already did that… Fire Petrie?

Rubio and Reke had identical stat lines. Wasn't expecting that.
WTF hard about staying with the 3 point shooters?
This team feels the need to double team and that leaves someone open
Jimmer needs to go D-League
Kings need to go to D League
Sacramento BigHorns?
Reno
As in, Kings would go to D league and become Reno Kings and V-Versa
I posted that a few games ago and still agree
He was fine tonite....send Thorton
wow, u know nothing.
Jimmer was +8 tonight with 0 turnovers

what were you hoping for?

Every comment of mine is about Jimmer because I'm obsessed.
I love the Jimmer bashing.

He actually played well.

By whose standards?

3-7 field, 0-3 from 3. He played better, but not quite well.

he's a shotclock eater
Moral vicotry: Better quality basketball for 2 quarters.

But not enough to avoid being spanked by one of the league’s lower ranked teams.

Boy our bar is low...
I bet Smarts going to blame the game on missing open shots again

seems to be the go to move so far

It is a big part of the funk. So many missed shots.

It's a part

but definitely not the biggest. If that was the problem the threads wouldn’t be so dire

Donte is the new "best SF" without question.
This

He is rebounding, playing D, and not taking as many silly shots. At least he is 23 with a chance to still develop. I don’t buy that “he is what he is” already.

We'll see how you feel three or four games from now
Funny fact:

On NBA.com’s power rankings today, it shows that John Salmons had the worst +/- of anybody in the league last week.

I'll probably feel the same

Because he can’t possible be more ineffective within only 3 or 4 games than all of our other SF options have been for the last 13.

Oh, it's possible

Have you watched Donte’s career?

And, no, Reke is not a SF
when does Hayes come back?

I need something to look forward to.

JT should be starting right now until then.

There should be a gif thread for losses.

A place for unity where we can share our mutual frustration.

A funeral?
Something kind of upbeat and angry.
I usually need a few hour break from Basketball after these games lately
and Salmons should def. be coming off bench.
Jimmer needs to go Chiness Basketball League

Don’t come back

lol

from all your comments you hate much?

Salmons or Outlaw?

I wonder who can miss more 3s in a row? Salmons or Outlaw? lol

Salmons and all the other misfirings...

GP’s days in the sun have turned into a total eclipse!

The worst thing is

they are all from the corner, which is the easiest shot to hit

Who had 25-4-9 tonight?

Tyreke???

Nope. Luke effing Ridnour.

I said it this summer on STR, got flamed, and I'll say it again now...

Minnesota has more talent and is much closer to being a 500 team than we are. So sad.

Although they basically played 4 on 5 most of the time, even worse
Top to bottom

Their roster is better than ours. And it’s not close.

Most definitely agree. They have a couple of franchise players. They have team mentality

The thing that bothers me is that Smart said he doesn't want to change the starting lineup

because he wants the players to trust him and no what their roles are. This starting lineup does NOT work.

Start IT one game with MT coming off bench.. shit it CANNOT BE ANY WORSE then this bullshit.

He might be afraid to go the route that PW did

and is winding up going to the other extreme

Sure looks that way
we suck!!!!

Not much else to add kings fans.

The Kings suck. We are awesome fans
The Kings haven't been good for many years

But they were still fun to watch.

This team is not.

I think this is quite possibly the ugliest offense I have ever seen by a Kings team, and I have been a an since they moved here.
Time to blow this team up, and don’t do it all half ass like they always do.
Make some serious, major changes for once Petrie.

Yeah like Petrie quitting his job, that would be a great start.

or being fired.

that works also
Who should replace Petrie?

That would be a good place to start.

You could do a better job, Slam_Dunk.
Maloofs aren't going to know who to hire. They are idiots.

Some names should be floated around.

Its funny how everyone is down on Jimmer now. I saw this coming from Day one. That trade and drafting Jimmer was the dumbest move this organization has every made. They should of stayed put and drafted Brandon Knight.

Starting to think so, i dont think we had the luxury to draft a Jimmer

I thought we should have taking Kemba Walker. But when on draft night Brandon Knight fell to that spot I was happy until I heard the trade.

definitely.. I was a proponent of Knight/Walker up to the draft and seems like we coulda used em

But now forced to root for Jimmer

knight is ballin
but they are selling jerseys!

that’s all that matters right?

they won’t be selling for long if this keeps up.

The die hard Jimmer fans though

just blame the Kings. They can’t believe that Jimmer could just not be that good

hes is a shooting slump, and adjusting to not getting alot of shots

but on a night where hes our best +/- and no turnovers and our starting guards go 7-23 with 8 turnovers, strange to go after the Jimmer

Sorry I don't believe in +/- at all
Especially in a one game sample

Jason Thompson was a -9 tonight and Hickson was a +2 – who played better?

Ricky Rubio was a -3 tonight while Anthony Tolliver was a +5 – who played the better game?

not going after him. Just think he doesn’t fit with this team. That can be said about much of the whole team. They just don’t mesh. I think the entire organization needs to be blown up. But it won’t happen cause I don’t believe the Maloof want the kings in Sacramento.

So jimmers the reason this team is a failure? Wow!
Who said that?

you guys are just putting words in our mouths. He deserves criticism, that’s not unfair. Why is that so hard to believe

No

But he is also not worthy of all the Jimmer jock riding that has taken place around here early in the season.

hes our Tebow
Tebow does it to himself

Jimmers fans do it for him

Fair enough

But don’t put him on the pedestal if you’re not willing to take the hits.

I was the one that never put him on a pdestal

I just think that the team as a whole doesn’t fit together. There is no chemistry, no teamwork. I think a change is needed. That can’t do it this season but they need to get serious about a winner or risk losing its entire fan base cause people are getting sick of being a laughing stock. I just can’t believe the players don’t seem sick of it. If they are sick of it. Then they need to do something about on the court.

I love

how so many of you guys are blaming jimmer for the failure of the kings. He had the best +/- tonight with zero turnovers.Ya he’s horrendous. Stop making jimmer the scapegoat of this team

Salmons is the scapegoat

The citicisms of Jimmer have been fair to all but the ones who refuse to believe them

I don't mind the criticisms

but just be reasonable. He wasn’t horrible tonight. And to be honest I didn’t care for all the jimmer mania because I already knew he could not live up to that. I knew he was the type of player that would take time to develop

Leave Jimmer alone!!

cute. You guys can hate

but this team as a whole has got issues

Not hatin on you dude

Just can’t believe anyone is exempt from criticism. Especially a guy known for his shooting who can’t hit a few wide open shots.

Like I said I don't mind criticisms

I’m just disagreeing with some by saying this is a team issue

It's definitlely a team issue

and individuals comprise the team, so it all goes hand in hand.

Don’t sweat it too much, its always like this after a bad game. We all attack each other when really everyone is just pissed with the losing, the poor offense, the “appearance” of missing out on a good draft pick, and the overall attitude of the team. It’s nothing personal.

Its not really about Jimmer. Its more of a criticism of the entire organization. They shouldn’t have drafted the guy. They should have drafted a true point in Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker. A Team full of guys that can only create there own shot one on one is not working. They need a guy that can create for his teammates, a guy that makes his teammates better. They just don’t have that.

I agree for the most part.
have a good night guys

I hope it turns around

It won't any time soon
Thats the spirit <<< Sarcasm
Sadly it wasn't, at least regarding our team's future.
Ya im really starting to think we are fucked.
You just started to think that?

You held out hope longer than me then, more fortitude.

JJ Hickson is shooting 37 percent

how is that possible for a post player with the layups and dunks he gets? He has got to be about 20 percent on jump shots

He's not living up to expectations
Jimmer

I realize Jimmer has played lousy but this team is totally dysfunctional and I’m sick he ended up with this sick group. Nobody makes anyone better, this is the worst passing team I’ve ever seen. This team has no leadership and needs to be blown up and start over. I pray they trtade Jimmer and get him out of this hell hole.

Hi Jimmer, how'd you get on here so fast after the game??
Forget it, we´re taking him down with us, meheheh.
Team needs a jolt in the arm... therefore no Isaiah?
We can't shoot and we can't defend. Where does the F.O. start at?
You start by realizing there are too many gunners on this team.

Trade Jimmer/Hickson/Salmons for KG. Celtics want to get younger, Kings need leadership and roleplayers.

And then you move Isaiah Thomas, Donte and Thompson to the starting lineup and bring Thornton off the bench for some heat as a sixth man

IT/Thornton
Reke/Thornton
Greene/Garcia
Thompson/Hickson
Cousins/Hickson

8 man rotation. Thats all you need.

KG will rather gnaw his foot off than come into this mess.
I would LOVE to see that.
Whoops I forgot KG in the rotation

IT/Thornton
Reke/Thornton
Greene/Garcia
KG/Hickson
Cousins/JT

Maybe a trade somewhere along the season?
Only if it means getting rid of those pesky few million keeping us above the league minimum
and itll be for a journeyman player that does only one thing good :(
And then they will suck at that too when they get here
Sounds like every FA or player thats been traded for/signed over the past couple years
What is up with no post game comments anymore?

It pisses me off they don’t even acknowledge it either

Aren't they going to have them?
What's the point?

Its always the same excuses, game after game. I’m just getting so tired of nobody being honest and telling it like it is.
We have a terrible offense, and the players don’t compliment each other!

Nevermind, I thought they already signed off
Post game comments beginning
"We forgot how to play how weve been playing"

and how is that exactly

"We got stagnent with the basketball"

Really? No shit!?

Changing lineup

Thank Christ

Keith Smart

Says that he is considering line-up changes. Let’s see what they are

Keith Smart

I am considering a line-up change

HOPE SPRING ETERNAL

New starting SF- Travis Outlaw

Anyone mind relaying what's being said?
I don't think a line-up change will do anything if we have the same players that can't shoot or defend
IT

Starting at PG could help a lot

What is the solution to our horrible perimeter D?
IT plays pretty damn good D IMO
Takes Time

How many games has Keith Smart had? How many practices ect come u didn’t expect PW to be fired and there would be an instant change this is gonna take time and it will be painful at time and down right disgusting BUT we lovee this team and we hold out hope something will work because thats what we as fans have the right to do. Smart seems like he know what the problems are but is having a hard time figuring out how to ffix once again this takes time.

4-9 doesn't tell our story

We r much worse.

Is DMC still having a cold??

he looks like still sick

1-4 on this road trip :(
No lineup change will help.
somehow I don't think a "line up change" means going from dnp-cd to starter
Interesting. I wonder who he may have been referring to?
well the obvious demotion is Salmons

the question is whether he puts Donte or Garcia there, or goes with three guards.

Outlaw

Im calling it now

The biggest kick in the balls this season

Is having to accept that we traded Beno for John Salmons. John-FREAKING-Salmons!! AND it cost us more money! Ugh!

Is it just hitting you now?
Yeah, again, and again, and again, and....
@mr_jasonjones
Jason Jones
Coach Smart said he will look at lineup changes after tonight’s loss
i hope

Jimmer Out
IT In

Ah! But, he didn't even play IT
Give it a rest, man...

Jimmer was not the problem tonight.

Right.

Because we need another guy on the floor who will over-dribble.

Are you considering Line Up Changes???

Smart replies:

O yeah yeah yeah…I am at that point now. Because I can’t keep waiting for guys to play great and play good because the season is too short…Its a long flight back and I gotta lot of thinking to do. I gotta do something, right now this is not working for our basketball team

Salmons, GTFO.

Sounds a little like he has been thinking about this, but wanted to see how tonight's game would go.
Dude has missed 26 Three Pointers in a Row

He more than enough of a chance to find his game. Has failed miserably.

*Had
And that might be one of the things Smart is thinking about.
Of course, and also Smart has to ponder that JJ Hickson has played like crap.

The two forward spots are where changes are most likely to occur. The back court spots and Cousins are safe.

Best bet for next game:

Reke
MT
Donte
JJ Hickson
Cousins

he needs to stop insisting that theres no problems with our offensive system
I didn't get that from Smart's post game interview tonight.

I didn’t write down his words, but he said something to the effect he was giving the guys directions for the simplest offensive executions and they still weren’t getting it. I think he sees there is a problem.

yea ur right

i think i heard that in the sound bite they played right before the post game interview

I like IT off the bench.

His energy is much appreciated. Its minutes that need to change. Sf needs to change. Donte can play D and is rebounding well as of late. I’d rather see that

So can we hit rewind

and trade the 7th pick for Tony Parker and Richard Jefferson?

Until the coach

Is willing to sit people down for dribbling out the shot clock and jacking up a stupid shot, or dribbling into three defenders and turning it over, or leaving their feet before passing, there will be no system. And until there is a system, we will have an ugly and unproductive offense.

The coach needs to play the players who will run the plays he calls (assuming he’s calling them, which I’m not sure of) and sit the ones who won’t or can’t.

And he needs to slap Donté every single time he jacks up a three.

The worst part?
Is willing to sit people down for dribbling out the shot clock and jacking up a stupid shot, or dribbling into three defenders and turning it over, or leaving their feet before passing, there will be no system. And until there is a system, we will have an ugly and unproductive offense.

That used to apply to 1 or 2 guys. Now its the entire stinking team!

Yep.

But if Smart will pull Evans, Thornton or Salmons after a particularly bad posession, I’m pretty sure everyone will get the message.

Doubt Evans or Thorton will be pulled.

Plus he said Thornton is still recovering and getting back into the game after his injury.

Thornton is my favorite player

Bur he looks like crap this season. His attitude appears to be different this year too.

he got freaking paid that's why

why should he play any harder

Getting his shot back

Is totally different from playing within the offense.

He over-dribbles and throws up a desperation 3? Sit him down and make him think about it.

And that goes for everyone, including Evans. No sacred cows.

Absolutely

I think everyone needs to be treated the same regardless of their status on the team.
Nobody stands out as the teams leader, and until that happens, its up to Smart to regulate the game. If we had true leader a lot of this frustration would not exist IMO.

I agree, and I think the team as a whole would respect him more for it
Isn't that normal?

For people to slump back to what there used to when under pressure? All these people are creators and are used to creating.

It's lazy, low IQ basketball.

And the only pressure on them is what they put on themselves by trying to do it all.

-23 Salmons may have

found a seat on the bench

Grinning Paul Westphal

Is just happy to be out and away from this disfuntional mess.

That's okay. He is the main player who got us into this mess.
Jumping out the f-ing window anyone want to join me

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