Sactown Royalty

Perfect.

I remember this play and it was an absolutely blown call by the ref

WTF is that?

He's been in the league how long now? I don't know if he'll figure it out unfortunately.

He's one of the few bright spots this season. It's not his fault they lose.

PhutureKings - January 26, 2012 reply

Uh, NOBODY defended the paint in that embarrassing layup drill we allowed

It IS his fault – along with everyone else, including Cousins who had another nice stat game but . . . .

lietothegirls - January 26, 2012 reply

Whenever anyone tried the refs were calling them for fouls, no matter if they touched em or not

ExPFCWintergreen - January 25, 2012 reply

And they weren't calling the same way on the other end.

LOUiECOG - January 27, 2012 reply

Embarrassing times, indeed

convoy - January 25, 2012 reply

It seems all the more frustrating because this month seems to me to be a crucial one for the fan base to show its enthusiasm to the world in order to improve our chances of seeing the team stay. Yet even diehard loyalists here have to get out early for their own peace of mind. It pained me to see the place less than half full, and by the 4th quarter all those had left.

Yeah, especially when there are more fans in the seats and viewership is up

How much gut-wrenching can a Kings fan take. Kind of hard to have enthusiasm for something which is boring to watch two thirds of the time. The Kings selfish play is not going to sell tickets. The hallmark of the exciting Kings teams of the early 2000s was a pass-first mentality. And speaking of mentality, the players basketball IQ, perhaps just IQ in general, is not apparently abundantly high on this team.

I remember going through too many back-to-back heartache losses in the early 1990s. Seems like we have become decade-long perennial cellar dwellers again.

convoy - January 25, 2012 reply

It's all about spin.

Just tell everyone they won’t be able to see visiting NBA stars without maintaining our own, shitty team here.

PhutureKings - January 26, 2012 reply

I still loved the 1st quarter and and jimmer hitting so many 3s made me a happy camper. GO KINGS!

CousinsEvansDUO - January 25, 2012 reply

I wondered why he was benched right afterwards

ExPFCWintergreen - January 25, 2012 reply

Yeah I wondered that too

he finally gets hot and you bench him? Don’t get that. It was when he was on the bench that the Kings collapsed, too. Not saying that was the whole reason but it surely didn’t help.

He played for 14 straight minutes

ExPFCWintergreen - January 25, 2012 reply

What happened? I know I had all my feathers before the game. What next, Chicken Nuggets?

I think I got plucked.

Bill2 - January 25, 2012 reply

I wonder why Smart doesn’t let Fredette (and Thomas) have more time on the floor together. They seem to liven up the game on both sides. Yet Evans plays the entire game, save a few minutes. I think Evans could be an all-star caliber player in the NBA, but unless he pays consequences for his erratic charges into the traffic and ill-advised fade-away shots (that miss) — extended bench time — I don’t think he will do anything of note here. I know that Smart tells him regularly to pass the ball and look for an open man, and I believe he tries to do it just long enough to feel that he has “satisfied” his duty, and then it’s back to erratic fadeaways and lane crashing. Hard for other players to feel part of a cohesive unit. Evans is a phenomenal talent, but it seems that he can’t be a great asset for this team, sadly…

...

what's he saying?

It looks like "More Air" Not sure what that means

LoL

Come on now is my guess.

Aykis16 - January 26, 2012 reply

Winner Winner

It was actually during the Indiana game at the very beginning when he kept on dropping off beautiful dimes, and everyone kept missing 2ft shots.

His mouth was “Cmmon now.. …. Shiiieeet…”

Dear Kings Fans. I know nothing can be done to assuage the anguish of your bereavement...

And in the place of Abraham Lincoln’s famous words, I place bewbies. I hope this helps ease your pain of such loss and heartache.

me likie. Thank you and god bless.

mmarcum - January 25, 2012 reply

I can tolerate this

bignerd - January 25, 2012 reply

Not bad, but not Anna Kournikova either

Points for trying.

$KingsElite$ - January 25, 2012 reply

How do you not like Kate Upton?

To each his own, but are you serious?

well said

Jimmer me timber

i'm at work, bu ti wanna watch SO BAD

I went to this game, I brought a buddy who is not really a basketball fan. And he still isn't a basketball fan

This was Denver v. The Will Solomons – an absolutely awful performance. The stats will not explain just how bad these Kings were. This was Kenny Natt basketball.

simply pathetic

betweentheeyes - January 25, 2012 reply

The Kings v. The Nuggest, 25 January 2012

The red line represents the Kings offense, the black line is the Kings defense

betweentheeyes - January 25, 2012 reply

And just when you thought nothing other than biochemistry could ever be described by a Lineweaver-Burk plot

I was proven wrong. Good thing I stopped watching after the first half.

$KingsElite$ - January 25, 2012 reply

Yeah, we were all thinking that.

The only good thing that came out of the game

is that when they finally threw out T-shirts , Bob the only 6 sections away from me and the only other person in the arena , each got 14 of ‘em.
They said “When things get tough, we get blown out by 29”.
Slamson gave me a lap dance, the tail was just king of odd though.
The damn cotton candy guy wouldn’t stop sitting in front of me until I bought all he had.
Fat Bob was eating his third and looked at me and shrugged.
The Dances, Kylie, Kylie, Kylie, Kylie, Kelly, Kandi, Karla and Kyle all came bye to say hi.
Good news, I got Kyles number.
The 6 Jimmer mormon fans said fuck this shit in the second quarter and left.
I’m sorry this isn’t funny but I am amusing myself (and not in a good way).

I re-read this shit and it would have been better if I wrote it like the

illiterate guy in the pre-game thread.
A free T-shirt to anybody who can fix all the spelling errors and delete the random words.

What kind of t shirt?

Briceratops - January 25, 2012 reply

Used

Like the Kings were tonight

Was there a giant hole in the middle of it?

SPTSJUNKIE - January 26, 2012 reply

U serious...........bro???

SharkKings49 - January 25, 2012 reply

5351 comments on StR

7 have been serious. Do You feel lucky, punk? Well, do you?

LeaguePassAddict - January 25, 2012 reply

You spelled the second Kylie wrong.

I din't like her as much as the others

I thought it was awesome you got Kyle's number

Watch out. though. I heard he gets around.

I can confirm

CoolFinity - January 26, 2012 reply

What about Chai-Lee

The only good thing that came out of the game [with inserts]

Is that when they finally threw out T-Shirts, Bob, only] 6 sections away from me, and the only other [living] person in the arena, each got 14 of them. The shirts said “When things get tough, we get blown out by 29”. I got a lap dance from Slamson, which was weird because of the damn tail. Also, the damn cotton candy guy wouldn’t stop sitting in front of me until I bought all he had, since there were no other fans.

Fat Bob, who was well on his way into his third cotton candy stick, simply looked at me and shrugged.

The Dancers, whose names all begin with K and look hot, came bye to say hello and [gave me the best goodbye ever since I was the only fan there besides fat Bob and they were going to go to an afterparty and ditching the game].

Good news, I got Kyles digits, yo.

The 6 Jimmer Mormon fans said fuck this shit in the second quarter and left.

The rest is history.

I know you weren’t being serious but I am rewriting this because it takes my mind off a horrible loss.

If I wasn't a lazy rat bastard you'd have the T-shirt by tomorrow

I owe you….that was great.

Hah, you're welcome sir!

I have a mild error or two in there, but I blame that on sleep deprivation. Still, at least my typing accuracy was still probably around 3-4 times than the Kings percentage.

Kingsfan banished to AZ - January 25, 2012 reply

Saw it coming, but it still hurts

Priceless

SPTSJUNKIE - January 26, 2012 reply

Screw the Knicks for creating that team in our Conference.

Briceratops - January 25, 2012 reply

What a disgrace this organization has been

I don’t want to hear about how it’s Tyreke’s fault or even John Salmon’s fault. This is on the Maloofs & Petrie. They promised us a GD competitive team this year & they failed miserably. Oh wait, you have to actually try in order to fail.

I feel like GP &/or the Maloofs need to hold a press conference & tell us WTF they plan to do with this mess(if anything). Not in detail just tell us you understand there is a problem & you’re not sitting on your damn hands.

If you are throwing this season away like you did the last 5 let me know so I can stop wasting my time following this shitty ass team.

Allbenji - January 25, 2012 via mobile reply

Thank you for expressing my mindset as well

convoy - January 25, 2012 reply

I had a similar thought this morning when I awoke.

Petrie’s mystique, holding his ideas close to his vest has worn thin. How about some transparency for a change?

I’m not really interested in hearing from the Maloofs, because those goofballs will just lie and give us more of their crapola.

Time for Petrie to hold a press conference, show accountability, and explain what he and the organization plan to do about it, etc.

I agree with you.

I'm afraid Geoff is too busy today picking out his turtleneck for the next game

The March trade deadline is approaching. With a normal team, fans would be speculating about possible trades to improve the lineup. Here, all fans know intuitively that, once the Maloofs and Petrie achieved the league minimum, they shut down for the year.

I'm closely approaching the Fire Petrie bandwagon.

though i don’t think it’ll help matters much w/o fire maloofs.

I also don’t think it’ll hurt matters much either.

My favorite part of the game

George Karl gets T-ed up when the Nugs were up by 23.

betweentheeyes - January 25, 2012 reply

Why do we need Chuckwagon...?

Chuck Hayes will likely return in that game, although it’s unclear just how much he’ll play. The Kings could definitely use his rebounding, defense, toughness and unselfishness.

…when we have Jason Thompson?

Are you suddenly failing to appreciate the offensive and defensive impact of which he brings consistently as deserving starter, and clearly jobbed in his bid for 5 year max extension? I am sensing a lack of reverence for the awesomeness that is JT…

Why o’ why can fans not grasp the broad and diverse talents that he offers every minute he is on the floor???

Oh well…

Haters gonna hate.

Lets get one thing straight this very instant: JT is Mr. Hustle. Who wants to back me up here?!? When he’s on the floor, he is first to loose balls, first to commit a hard foul, first to draw a charge, first to close down the paint, first to set an effective pick, first to provide glue for 48 minutes, and first to inspire defensive intensity and relentless hustle….

Well, OK, never mind, JT’s none of that and less…but look…

We only allowed 92 points in the paint. Now sure thats an endless stream of lay-ups and dunks as endless as a thoroughbred taking a piss, but I wanna assure each and every Kings fan…

JT was trying really hard!!!!!

bench_blob - January 25, 2012 reply

Pretty sure there were 8 other Kings out there getting killed on defense tonight

This is why people don’t take you seriously when you talk about JT, because he’s the only one you harp on.

Look, JT is not awesome. JT is a 3rd big in the rotation at best. He’s starting because J.J. Hickson has been terrible. But you treat him like shit no matter what the hell he does.

You make some good points every now and then Blob, but your thing with JT is a huge turn-off. He’s not what’s wrong with this team. Not even close.

Aykis16 - January 25, 2012 reply

What he said.

killerking - January 25, 2012 reply

I agree with you guys

but I really like the Blob (loved him in X-men) but hate this new single note song he has been singing.

It's odd, for sure.

fffindeed - January 26, 2012 reply

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Kinda feel I should have saved it for this comment, but who cares. post it twice.

lol so great

We need this after every cowboyron post! Even Thompson is raising the Hot Hand (Highest in FG% i guess he is the only one you can say has a hot hand on this team)

Troller's gonna troll

Heads up to everyone in this Blob JT arguement thingy that has just really turned into personal insults between members and nothing to do with JT at all really

I have a really hard time flagging stuff but every single time (and I don’t care who it is) I see one of these back and forths with a personal insult (and I don’t care which came first) I am flagging it. Every single time. So if you guys get mad for warnings, I’m the asshole.

Jerk!

Scary!

some people get really riled up about warnings

hard to keep track of who does

Not me

I get warned by LPA at least ten times a day

Hey!

What have I said about mentioning me in a negative way on StR?

I heed the warning signs

Are you saying I'm fat?!

This is where that "Homer fading into the bushes" gif would come in handy

Hey I can live with yes/no questions just fine

It’s the ones that have no right answer, like, "Do you think I’m sexier than I look?’ or “If I died and you had to marry one of my friends . . .” that scare me.

Are you two right next to each other while you're typing this stuff?

Yes. Yes we are.

And we're giggling.

That wasn't an answer, either yes or no.

YOU THINK I’M FAT!

/runs crying upstairs

The Crown Royal Gentleman - January 26, 2012 reply

Poor Honest Abe caught in a conundrum.

Slam_Dunk - January 27, 2012 reply

"Do you think I’m sexier than I look?"

Wow, that’s a doozy.

I don't see why the answer isn't "yes".

As long as you say “because most people see you clothed”.

ahhh yes: some of the "and then the fighting started"

His:
A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror.
She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, “I feel Horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a
Compliment.”
The husband replies, ‘Your eyesight’s damn near perfect.’
And then the fight started…

Hers:
After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver’s license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later.

The woman said, ‘Unbutton your shirt’. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, ‘That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me’ and she processed my Social Security application.
When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office.
She said, ‘You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too.’
And then the fight started….

betweentheeyes - January 26, 2012 reply

flagged!

TheFifthMookie - January 26, 2012 reply

Chapu4u

Jam JT if you want, but one positive memory that I took away from last night’s game were his poetic sweeping layups early in the game — at least two of them in the early minutes.

I was so excited before the season because I thought the team was finally going to be competitive, but it’s still the same old crap. The culture of losing just permeates the team from top to bottom. I’m just get a kind of numb feeling when i watch this team now, the pathetic second half start didn’t surprise me at all.

And get of JT He’s one of the only true professionals on the team and he busts his ass out there. When he gets low minutes he doesn’t mope and is always ready to go and he’s actually one of the young players that have developed. His post game and his court awareness have been much better since the end of last year, even though it didn’t show tonight.

youknowit100 - January 26, 2012 reply

Prior to the season I had the Kings at 6-15 or 7-14 thru the end of January

I felt that way in spite of the talent. or what looked like talent on the roster. But, the one thing that has been missing thru the entire Westphal regime is team play. Especially, the defense which still doesn’t know how to defend a pick & roll or rotation to help in the paint.

If your depressed now, consider this. The Kings have played very few home games and had a winning record at home (4-3) prior to tonight. The attendence was 12,100. As the team continues to lose by big margins, that number is only going down. And, without higher attendence the Maloofs are not going to be able to afford to spend the rest of their cap space. Especially if the Mayor fails to get the ESC started.

On the bright side, the Kings probably have another 18 wins coming this season. And, with some practice time I think Coach Smart will get this team playing better. They might not win very many more but the games should be more interesting.

Schnuppermeister - January 26, 2012 reply

Not JT is the problem...

its… wtf, i dont know… how about reactivating vlade divac? i think it cant get worse… and i heard mitch richmond is able to catch a ball… more than JS and FG are able to right now…
pissed off greetz from fu**ing germany

btw: the only good thing after another blowout loss are the wonderful gifs some guys here create

where is the light...?

Schnuppermeister - January 26, 2012 reply

Really glad I missed this one

A quick glance over the box score shows that Honeycutt was more productive in his four minutes than the rest of the hydra. I have high hopes and low expectations for him, but am in the “play him, he cant be any worse” camp.

How did he look out there? Has he gained any weight? Two steals in four minutes is promising, even in garbage time (which looked to last the final 30 minutes).

Olde Greg - January 26, 2012 reply

Very unimpressive, and he was playing against Denver's scrubs.

His one basket came off of his one offensive put back. Don’t read too much into the steals, it’s not like he stripped anyone. More like he got the ball in the wild medley.

As for the Hydra, Salmons and Garcia need to be retired to the stadium seats in street clothes. Donte never played much on Gallinari, and continues to play more PF than SF so I’m not going to add him to that group. By the way, in limited minutes Donte continues to rebound at a career rate. Last night he led all rebounders including Cuz in Def Reb Rate and Total Reb Rate.

Denver had 3 rookies as well on the court

Including one who was undrafted. It put new meaning to the term garbage time.

CoolFinity - January 26, 2012 reply

MISSING

Have you seen this man?
Last seen early January when he fired his coach. There has been no clue as to his whereabouts since. Co workers and counterparts in other organisations are desperately seeking word of his whereabouts, as his job is being neglected.

If you have any information as to the whereabouts of this man, please contact wherethefuckisourgm@kings.com, or call 888-93-KINGS

Schnuppermeister - January 26, 2012 reply

I saw him, he was in the entourage of Kim Dotcom and the other megauploader-guys....

Clever, but tuck this away until the trade deadline.

I don’t want Geoff tinkering the roster or blowing things up before then, give Smart a chance to right the ship a bit with what he’s got (including, hopefully, a healthy Chuckwagon), and scope the possibilities around the deadline but don’t do anything stupid. Then, depending on how the second half of the season shakes-out, try your damnedest to convince the Maloofs to put their entire Ed Hardy collection on Craigslist to raise money for a real head coach (Sloan, Brown, Van Gundy- anyone who will come in with a serious plan, structure, and experience).

Can anyone explain the logic in...

trading the 7th pick to Charlotte & Beno Udrih to Milwaukee in exchange for the Jimmer Fredette & John Salmons?? And why did Petrie want the 6’6" Chuck Hayes over the 6’11" Samuel Dalembert?? I never understood these moves and I still don’t.

Ninja King - January 26, 2012 reply

no one can explain it

JVinci - January 26, 2012 via mobile reply

I'm reserving judgement on the Hayes signing for now

But it’s hard to figure the logic on the Salmons trade. It was perplexing then, it’s perplexing now.

..

Is the guy behind him scratching his back?

I hope so

JJ's a statue

He had to clear a wide swath in the locker room

For the baller aura of travis outlaw. Rumor had it that beno was a playa hater and these two talents never could have coexisted

When you have the chance to get (another) 6’9" guy who does nothing but camp out on the perimeter and jack up 3’s at a terrible percentage, you dont think. You pull the trigger. Thats why Petri is the professional and you know it alls still live in your mommas basements.

lchristmas - January 26, 2012 via mobile reply

We did that? Tell me it isn´t so!

I think the Salmons trade actually could have been good.

But, he’s been playing terrible, so it was a terrible trade. I really don’t think it was illogical, just somewhat risky. On paper, it makes sense. On the court, it makes us puke.

As for Dally, I recall that immediately after last season ended, it was clear that there was not a Love Connection between Sammy and the Kings. Dalembert didn’t come out and say that he didn’t want to be back, nor did the Kings shut down the possibility, but my sense was always that each side was hoping to move on from the relationship. He nearly ended up back here, anyways, but I don’t think his departure is really a stain on the front office. Let’s give Hayes a good chance to make us all stop daydreaming about Dally before we skewer Petrie for that choice.

Perhaps this is simplistic

But I think a major component is that they didn’t want to pay Dalembert what they figured it would take to keep him and assumed there would be a cheaper alternative out there.

Not going to try and figure out what the Maloofs are thinking

But with his Houston contract only being like $7m, that doesn’t seem to have been the issue. I think Dally just didn’t want to come back to a dysfunctional Kings team. It’s not like the Kings played all that well with him. In fact we currently have a better record w/o him.

Legit points

But with their penny pinching ways, I think the $$$ was an integral component in their thoughts. This is speculation on my part as I don’t have any insight in to their thoughts either, which is probably a good thing as far as my sanity is concerned!

Hard to imagine them giving MT and Salmons the money they are giving them

and not being willing to pay Dally $7 on a two year deal. But I could absolutely see Dally telling us he wouldn’t play for less than $10m a year while telling Houston something different. Clearly Dally’s agent did something that pissed off GP.

Or GP pissed of Dally

Did the Kings rescind Dally’s offer AFTER they found out that Hayes could be resigned. It seems like there was no need to rescind it after Dally signed with Houston.

Could be

I guess we will never know for sure. I’m pretty sure his price came down over time. But we could definitely use him now.

That Houston contract was after the fact.

Sammy had a great finish to the season and was just as valuable as Thornton to how the Kings finished the season.

It’s been stated often that Sam was upset that the Kings didn’t offer him an extension prior to the lockout. And, then immediately after the Lockout they offered Hayes a contract. And, as far as I can tell, they didn’t offer Sam a contract until after they voided Hayes contract.

There could have been some stalling by both the Kings and Dalembert, prior to the Nene, Gasol, and Chandler signings, with everyone looking to see who would take what money. But, for the most part, I think it was foolish of the Kings not to offer Dalembert a 3 year extension for $30M and only a partially guaranteed 3rd year. They blew $12M on Outlaw and spent $21M on Hayes.

I don't disagree at all

Dalembert

Just cos he signed for 7 mill doesn’t mean that was what he wanted. He wanted a multimillion dollar deal from a contender, think he has always been his own guy not a team guy necessarily. Think if the Kings overpaid him he would have come back, that noone else gave him a multi year deal says something

Murf - January 26, 2012 reply

What is worse on this team...BBall IQ or selfishness?

or are they the same thing? Only solution…..Blow em up!!!!!

Everything that is wrong with this team can be fixed, or at the very least mitigated by off the ball movement.

Off the ball movement = easy passing lanes = easier shots taken = more made buckets = more time to get back on D = opponents half to run half court sets = more opponent misses = fast break opportunities = easy points

Off the ball movement doesn't fix 92 points in the paint.

It helps a little, bringing down the 26 FB points.

But having Hayes back should bring that number down a bit more. He is another wide body next to Cuz that clogs the paint and communicates on D.

Unfortunately, you were right about the “Perfect Storm scenario” you mentioned in the pregame thread. 92 is ridiculous though, the Kings should be embarrassed about that.

If they wanted to, the Nuggs could have won this game by 60!

I can´t believe I get up at 4am for this shit. I so wish I could stop, but it´s never going to happen.

I know nothing about college basketball. Is there a nice #4 pick coming up?

Remember

if we don’t beat out New Orleans for the worst team in the league, we’ll get #5.

I wonder if Whiteside would have had any effect on the 92 points in the paint?

Why not give him a run in the middle? Could it hurt any?

That aside, this team needs veteran leadership. Any hardened veteran would not put up for these blowout losses without saying something. I know there are dozens of veterans in the NBDL dying to get another shot a the league and would leave it all on the floor. Why not give one of them a shot. Some kind of shakeup has to happen. March 1st cannot come soon enough to be able to move any contract. Trade deadline is what, March 15?

adamsite - January 26, 2012 reply

Was thinking the same thing...

… about Whiteside while watching this layup line. Could not agree more about NDBL. Especially at the SF position.

henryclemente - January 26, 2012 reply

Veteran Leadership would help this team, if it came in the form of 5 Starters

We went out and got veterans, in Hayes, Salmons and Outlaw. Unfortunately, none are starters, well at least Salmons isn’t at his current position.

You think some Vet’s yelling is going to make Tyreke a better defender, or JT jump higher for rebounds or JJ to start hitting his jumpers outside of 10 ft. The problem isn’t veteran leadership, it’s the skill level of the players and their inability to complement each other and compensate for each others weaknesses.

there is talent, it’s just the wrong mix of talent. We have no legitimate starter at the 3 or 4 position, and only one player on the team that is shooting over 33% from 3, yet the Kings are 5th in 3pt attempts and 2nd to last in 3pt%. Just don’t see a veteran fixing any of that.

I'm nitpicking here because that is all I have left

Isn’t it about time Garcia gets glued to the bench? I’m pretty sure he’s a great teammate but he has proven over the last few games that he isn’t an effective NBA player. For being one of the more seasoned players, he makes just the same stupid mistakes as the rookies.

towndunce - January 26, 2012 reply

Salmons has been worse though.

I would rather have Garcia start than him.

I know what opinions are like so I'm gonna make a proper metaphor

Salmons has been shit. Garcia has been diarrhea. I’d rather not have diarrhea.

towndunce - January 26, 2012 reply

Not sure how you can see Garcia as having played worse than Salmons, but ok.

What can you expect with dingleberry owners?

There are ample aeolian deposits to be spread around. Sure, Salmons is a bomb dump, but aren’t you forgetting Clingon Outlaw? When we are looking to wipe the area clean, don’t leave any poop remaining. It all needs to be flushed away.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who embraced the metaphor.

towndunce - January 26, 2012 reply

Yup. We need to wash our hands of these guys.

bros

i dnt get to see a lot of kings games…….i try n watch those cats wheenver i gets a chance…….jus sayin……What do yall think is missin from tha team???? i mean i always tell my homeboys that the kings will have a breakout season but bros…….dem boys keep makin me look like a fool(i dnt like lookin like a fool)….jus sayin…….i mean i fux with tha kings still but its like iuno wat they need bros……..

what yall think bros???

/////king will rise to tha top\\\\

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PW is old news

What we are missing

1) Burkle (or any owner not named Maloof)
2) A new GM
3) A mentor for Cousins/Tyreke
4) A player who will pass
5) A non-Salmons SF (Damn you AK-47)
6) Anthony Davis

Yes, Kings will be on top soon enough……hopefully.

el oh el

yea hes trash bro…….yea bro morey is cold for tha rockets……yea tyreke is a ball hog and dat cat cousins can be great………yea yall are some ball hogs……i like salmons bro hes good…..and el oh el bro el oh el….the kings will be good again i kno they will

/////i like da pics\

i like salmons bro hes good

I was taking you seriously until you said that.

Yeah, anyone who watches this years Kings should know Salmons is the worst

He went on a streak where he missed about 30 3’s in a row and thats just a blip on the radar for why he sucks.

naw i mean bro

hes not great but he has potential………..like on tha rockets we got C Bud so ya kno dats like how i compare dat man salmons………but i feel u……ereteam gots a whippin boy and that happens to be dat man salmons for tha kings….jus sayin…….

Love your use of well placed use of elipses

But I gotta say, just don’t know that they go with your total lack of any other punctuation.

Double elipses across the sky!

How much potential can you have

when you’ve been in the league 10 years and are 32 years old?

Pretty sure we know what Salmons is. And he is not now what he once was.

And I’m not a bro.

my bad guys....

its how i talk i guess ill call u homie? friend? iuno

Is "bro" unisex?

No that's the manzier

my bad i did not kno u were or are a girl

it wuz an honest mistake friend…….ill try n make it up or sumtin

//// I feel stupid\

You must get that feeling a lot.

DiegoKing - January 26, 2012 reply

Bazinga

Where did you get the idea LeaguePassAddict is a girl?

Salmons is an old man on the downside of his average career

I was taking you seriously until you said that.

I was taking you seriously until you said that.

Ooooooh!

Somebody fell into the chasm…

Not at all.

But seriously, I find it very exhausting to read “this stuff”

I do too.

I was just being funny. Since I have a reputation as being a grammar nazi, it seemed funny for me to take his posts seriously except for the Salmons comment.

lol

What I think?

"Excuse me maam...I speak jive"

Saw the ESPN front page about the Clipps Lakers rivalry

Made me a little sad for the old Kings Lakers rivalry. The way the Clipps are getting under their skin reminded me of the old days.

HarveySpecter - January 26, 2012 reply

And thank you Corey Brewer

For blowing that layup/dunk and sparing us from having your team’s paint total exceed our total points!

You say he blew it

I say our defense made a stand.

home rim advantage

adamsite - January 26, 2012 reply

Time for the daily dose of...

#thankyousirmayIhaveanother

SierraSpartan - January 26, 2012 reply

Nutcracker Suite

No power in that kick.

She swung her right leg before her left leg even could get any push off the ground.

If you don't think that hurts, then you must be

Iron Balls McGinty.

Man, someone really needs to call of Petrie. This is his mess and he hasn't done anything productive in a while. I'm already looking forward to the NBA draft...Anthony Davis! MKG!

I would not be shocked

if Petrie was let go sometime soon. Something has to give. Losing is one thing …. getting blown out the way we are is another. I read a blurb on Rotoworld saying the Kings don’t have “high basketball IQ players” and I think I would have to agree.

BUT … at least they’re not in Anaheim!

Dub_TC - January 26, 2012 reply

I am still in the camp of "dont fire someone until you hire someone better"

And no teams fire GMs mid-season. None.

Who would take over? Shareef?

Well, if you have a potted plant in the position now, how could it hurt to have a living breathing human being?

Kind of reminds me of Malcolm Gladwell's article about how he'd make a better GM than Isaih Thomas

unfortunately, his arguement would likely be supportive of a potted plant

I kind of want someone who would work to try to prove himself

Instead of living off of past success.

It starts at the top with me though, and I have absolutely no faith in the Maloofs as owners.

Aykis16 - January 26, 2012 reply

In a perfect world, I'd replace the Maloofs

and put Petrie on a short leash, see what he can do with an owner that will let him do what he wants without getting financial approval from cheap skate owners. If he can’t put a good product on the floor shortly after that, then you replace him

The Crown Royal Gentleman - January 26, 2012 reply

Bill Simmons?

He wants a job.
Him, or the obvious choice: Kevin Pritchard.

DWeissbart - January 26, 2012 reply

I think Pritchard will fail without Paul Allen's spending.

The Maloofs don't have to make a move until they know they are staying in Sac

more than likely if they do end up moving, GP will quite or retire. If they stay, they are the ones that will know if GP was hampered by their need to control the money or if GP just isn’t good enough to make things happen.

Overall, I think GP stays if Smart stays unless the team moves.

This game proved why Salmons should not be playing SF

He got abused by Galinari constantly. He is too short to play other SFs straight up, so he has to move closer to be able to contest their jumper. When he does that, guys run right past him. You can make the same argument for Garcia, although Garcia is athletic enough to recover sometimes.

The only true SFs we have are Donte and Outlaw (and now Honeycutt of course, but he will not get more than garbage minutes until he gets used to the team), and they play mostly PF. Hopefully this gets rectified when Hayes comes back. Another big soaking up minutes will certainly help this team as well, and shift Donte and Outlaw back to SF where they belong.

...Garcia is horrible too. We've gone through the Garcia and Salmons experiment for years. We got rid of Salmons only to get him back...why?!?! WTF?!?!?

So we can move back in the draft to draft the guy we could’ve had with our original pick? Was this older version of Salmons better than the younger one? We’re stuck with him for 3 more years or so. And if we amnesty him, that’s basically a waste since we never would have had to use it on him if we didn’t unnecessarily pick him up to begin with! We could’ve used it on Garcia and be rid of them both!!!!!!! Instead we’re stuck with them both, or at least one, for the next 3 years!!!!

Job well done Petrie.

Here's my guess on how that went on draft night...

PW: Geoff, you never let me make any decisions. Why?

GP: Because you suck, Paul.

PW: Thats not fair, a decent SF on this team would put us over the top. What do you say?

GP: I think that’s a great idea, but no team is going to trade their stars with the lockout looming. What did you have in mind?

PW: I was thinking….

GP: Uh oh.

PW: Shut up, let me finish!! I was thinking…what about John Salmons?

GP: Been there, done that.

PW: No, seriously, hear me out. We take John back, move down in the draft. Move Beno, and draft Jimmer. What do you think?

GP: I think it sounds terrible…but if that is what you think you need to take this team over the top. But, I’m not taking the rap for it if it goes sour, deal?

PW: Deal. Let’s do it.

GP: Okay, here goes nothing.

I think that makes Petrie look worse than PW, honestly

And I don’t buy it for a second.

It's funny

But if GP really allowed a lame duck coach ta make personnel calls for him, he deserves to be fired. I’d much rather think that GP believed Salmons had a down year last year and would return to some form of his previous self, instead of going into a Kamikaze dive. And for what it’s worth, I think salmons hated coming back to the Kings and is barely even trying anymore. My guess is he wants to be amnestied.

Could be

I’ll be shocked if the Maloofs use the amnesty provision though. My guess is Salmons will be K9, part two.

Woof

Rec'd for kamikaze dive.

That’s just an awesome metaphor.

It's dispressing knowing that we have a very young team and they're out of shape!

How does that happen? The point of rebuilding with youth is to get better but these guys run around slower than this year’s Celtics.

It’s shocking that Tyreke has not improved since his rookie year. His shot looks horrible and he never drives left. Two things he needed to improve on and didn’t. He is regressing and I have no idea why. His jumpshot is atrocious. I’m very disappointed in him…we needed him to be the guy to lead this team and he hasn’t. He hasn’t stepped up, plain and simple. He disappears at times. When every team makes a run, our “guy” should be the one stepping up to stop those runs or do what he needs to do to get his team back on track.

Also, Garcia and Salmons are horrible at SF! Garcia airballed a wide-open 3, hit nothing but glass on his next attempt, and also had a brutal charging foul called against him when it looked like the Kings were gaining momentum. LESS GARCIA AND SALMONS PLEASE!!!! We’ve seen years and years of what they do on the court…why are we still putting ourselves through it? It’s below acceptable standards.

bro

wth happened to evans ……dat man has not gotten any better…..i thought dat man would be cold as hell by now but dat man is still tha same….hes good i aint write him off but dang man……and ya bro yall is like slow iuno bro…..on 2k i kill with yalll but iuno bro…..

////2k kings(el oh el)\\

The second anyone calls someone "bro"

I instantly think you are Paul Walker in Fast and the Furious and can’t take you seriously, at all.

Tyreke is fine, his shot isn’t going in, just like a lot of players in the league right now. Outside of that, I think Tyreke is playing better than either of his previous two years. He is being a good facilitator and getting rebounds. I’m not worried about him, his only flaw right now is his shot and that will eventually come around.

What I am worried about is the small forward position and the void that is in the paint the second Cousins is no longer involved in the play(whether it’s foul trouble, or he’s coming out of the paint for help defense). He is the only defensive presence we have in the paint. The Kings I think miss Dalembert more than anyone else. Him and Cousins down in the paint together and we easily win a few more games.

I haven’t got to see enough of the Hayes/Cousins combo yet to know if this even helps when he comes back. It can’t be any worse, that’s for sure

man yall got someone good in hayes

tha chuckwagon was a fan fave over in houston bro…….dat man is a beast……he might pick up tha tempo for hte team cuz he plays so hard…….and ya i mean dat man evans will be good but he is not that good a passer to be a pg in mye yes bro…..

////chuckwagon has rolled\

bq. The second anyone calls someone “bro” I instantly think you are Paul Walker in Fast and the Furious

Funny, for some reason I read his stuff with a Jamaican accident (a lot of “dat man”)

Watch a few Fast and the Furious, everything is "Check it out bro", "It's like this bro"

Actually, do yourself a favor and don’t want the Fast and the Furious…

That is unless it’s either between watching a Kings game, or the Fast and Furious.

Dude, mix in a dude with your bros every now and then

and for LPA and a few others, mix in a dudette

or "shawty"

Aykis, I loved your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarter diagram of points made in the paint. Rec'd Very funny.

I was wondering, if Coach Karl planned to attack the paint prior to the game; or, if he studied how the paint was being defended in the first quarter and decided to take advantage of our poor defense during the game.

I think the "diagram" is just a screen shot from either NBA.com or ESPN.com

Could be. He just got one with lots of made shots in the paint. Still, very funny.

no, that's the actual game shot chart

no joke, it is literally what transpired

Wow! That is ugly.

Okay, I went over to take a look.

Denver’s lethal shots

Yeah

Screenshot of ESPNs shot chart. I wish I was joking.

Aykis16 - January 26, 2012 via Android app reply

As I pointed out in my game preview, Denver leads the league in shots at the rim.

And, while some of that is due to the ability to get out on the fast break, it should be noted that they are 4th in assisted baskets at the rim. Only 4 of their players (Koufos, Miller, Lawson and Stone) have an assisted basket percentage at the rim under 50% In comparison, the Kings only have 3 players above 50% (Outlaw, Donte and JT)

So no, Karl didn’t have to game plan for the Kings, they just played the way they always do, which just happened to play in the main weakness of the Kings.

So, it should have come as no surprise to Smart that Denver would be looking to make their shots in the paint.

Nuggets’ success in the paint shone a glaring light on our weakness. I am wondering whether Coach Smart was caught unaware of this strategy by Karl; or, was he fully anticipating this attack, ill-prepared with inadequate manpower to launch an appropriate defense against it.

Another big on our side to clog the middle would have been nice in this game.

When there is only one on the court (Cousins) with slow to rotate help defenders (everyone else) it is easy to pass around him. With two guys clogging the paint, it makes it harder.

There was one play where JJ rotated perfectly and made a nice block. Other than that, we were terrible on help defense once again.

I don't think knowing is half the battle in this case

They do it really well. We are unable to stop it.

There was that one stretch where Denver made their run in the first half in the second quarter.

Did Smart put in different guys just prior to that happening?

Yeah

Actually I think he might have. But the weird thing is I’m pretty sure that’s when he brought in IT and Garcia for Jimmer and salmons. Should have improved the defense. Was that also when Cousins sat?

Just went back and looked

We finished the first quarter great playing mostly Jimmer, Evans, Salmons, Cousins, and a combination of JT and Hickson.

We started the second quarter with:
Jimmer
Evans
Garcia
Greene
Hickson

Just under two minutes into the quarter at 34-29, we swapped IT for Jimmer. We pulled within 3 and actually played pretty solidly with this line up. Cisco had the two long misses and Denver had three quick breakaways. Smart brought in Cousins and Salmons from Greene and Garcia, and that’s when everything went to Hell fast. So other than IT who was playing pretty decent defense, and Hickson for JT, the line up that let Denver pull ahead was the same as the starting line-up that played tough.

Tough to place any blame on one person or change.

I'm pretty sure based on the half time coaches statement, Smart was pissed

I’m sure they discussed the situation, but as Smart said after the game, talking about it isn’t the same as seeing it. And, since this has been a problem back to the beginning of LAST season, Smart isn’t going to fix it in under a month.

It really starts with the guards & wings getting beat off of screens, and ends with the bigs being too slow to recognize they need help, or just too slow moving away from their own many because they know no one is moving over to help them. We quite often cheat off our man, but when it’s time to react we hesitate to move into the path of the ball.

The lowly Hornets a week or two ago sure seemed to understand that they had to keep the Nuggets out of the paint

but then again they were able to roll out with Okafor and Kaman in that game.

You totally called it with your "Perfect Storm" prediction

Thanks, wasn't looking forward to that game, since I was pretty sure I nailed it.

Lowest FG% in the NBA and most points given up in the NBA

2 great tastes that taste great together!

man, so much suck in that

You know what would be nice

Jerry Reynolds coming out and reminding us for the 305th time that “shotblocking is overrated.” Shotblockers protect the paint and the basket. So, just like every time you say it, no Jerry, shotblocking is not overrated.

Plus, no one has thrown Jerry under the bus yet. Also, Peaches, sucks.

I dunno

The Washington Wizards lead the league (by far) with 141 blocks. And their defensive rating is 23rd in the league, points given up is 25th in the league.

Yep

Let’s talk about the Wizards. Here are their ranks on various distance shots.
Shots at the rim: 23rd
Shots at 3 to 9 feet: 4th
Shots at 10 to 15 feet: 26th
Shots at 16 to 23 feet: 29th
Three point shots: 28th

Now, what this says to me is that the Wizards are terrible on the perimeter, as their rankings on outside shots are all near the bottom of the league. They’re also bad at the rim, which tells me that the perimeter defense is breaking down and allowing open dunks at the rim, which shotblockers mostly can’t challenge.

From 3-9 feet (prime shotblocking range), Washington is one of the best teams in the NBA. You’re using their total defensive ranking without looking at the details. In fact, their shotblocking (not including open dunks) is making their overall defensive rating significantly better than it otherwise would be. Short range field goal percentage is actually the only thing they do well on defense.

So, I think you’ve proved my point. Shotblocking is not overrated.

I don't believe I have

But if you’d like to offer some tangible evidence that shows shotblocking as a corollary to good defense, feel free.

I guess what I'm saying is

Shotblocking may or may not be important to the defense, depending on the player. Justin Williams and Hassan Whiteside are great shotblockers, but do you really want them out there in a team defensive concept? How often do you see guys who try to block every shot and end up clearing the lane for a cutter?

It’s player specific. Some guys are good shotblockers at the expense of their team.

So just saying “we need some shotblockers” makes no sense to me. We need better team defenders and a better team defensive concept – frontcourt and backcourt.

At least you’ve abandoned your original point, so I have accomplished something here.

Shotblocking is one part of a team’s defense, and it’s an important part. As the Wizards prove, you can be a good shotblocking team and also be a bad defensive team.

I’m not advocating for players who can block shots and do absolutely, positively nothing else, which those players you’ve listed do. That would be a straw man fallacy, where you construct a imaginary person I never mentioned and wouldn’t accept, and then argue against that.

The Kings are clearly a terrible defensive team. Maybe historically bad. I am saying that the simple presence of a guy like Dalembert, Pryzbilla, Chris Anderson, etc. (that isn’t completely useless for anything but blocking shots) would make it a lot less likely that the Kings would set records for allowing points in the paint. It wouldn’t fix the defense, but it would make things better.

Is Pryz still around?

Or is he definitely retired?

Just lounging at home till the trade deadline probably then latch onto a contender for a 1/2 year contract

Abandoned? Ok, then.

Hey speaking of blocks

Tyrus Thomas 9 blocks in one game what?

Shot blocks are overrated, at least compared to taking charges

I agree with your assessment that shot blockers protect the paint. But I have long been amazed that taking charges is an overlooked stat. Think about it – a shot block does not ensure possession, while a charge does. Plus a charge tacks a foul onto the opposing player. In that respect, I’m fine with a guy like Cousins who is not an elite shot blocker but makes up for it with good positioning (at times).

Shot blocking is better than no shot blocking, but positioning and making it difficult to get to the basket clean are more important, in my opinion.

yea, totally don't get why charges isn't a regular boxscore stat

Section – you may be right about drawing charges being more important. I don’t know enough to compare the two. Altered shots is also not (I don’t believe, anyway) a stat, and is a directly related to shot blocking. For every shot blocked, there are some percentage of other shots altered and likely missed. I’d guess there’s a one or more altered shots for every block. That’s one reason shotblocking is not overrated, because no one counts altered shots, and those are just as important as blocks.

Agreed, but you're sort of refuting your own point

Shot blocking is not as important as having a presence in the lane that can make getting to the basket more difficult and/or make it more difficult to get shots off. Blocked shots is the only stat that is actually kept in this regard, while shot altering and charge drawing is largely ignored (not to mention not allowing your man to get deep into the paint in the first place). As a result, shot blocking is seen as the be-all and end-all of who defends the paint and who doesn’t. In that regard, it is an overrated stat.

I’m not saying that it is a non-stat (like game +/-) or a stat that is at the whim of house statisticians and surrounding talent (like assists), but I do think that it is seen as a far more telling stat than it really is.

But if you need to throw Jerry under the bus

He and Grant both were blatantly making fun of Ricky Rubio’s abilities after the Kings selected Tyreke in the draft.

Yep -

Jerry called him the poor man’s Luke Ridnour.

I would gladly take the "poor man's Luke Ridnour" if we could have had the chance...

Hell, I´d take Luke Ridnour at this point (not over Tyreke of course)

No shotblocker would have been able to help us that game,

unless we played 4 on 5 on offense with Mutumbo camping on defense. Mutumbo would only help after MADE shots which gives the team time to get back.

I think us fans have been seriously mislead and gone along with it.

Supposedly the Maloof have, or so we have been told, opened their wallets to spend money on this team. That is the story, right? Even TZ has said as much, but what are they are really spending? Where is this team in terms of talent and payroll?

The reality is that the Kings do not have the talent to compete and are barely above minimum payroll in the league. The Maloof have NOT opened their wallets. They passed on paying Dalembert and brought in the Hayes, but he would not be a starter on many other teams. He would be a backup big. They brought on Salmons, but that was really barely taking on more salary because they were able to off-load Beno Udrih. Outlaw is another choice of paying a little money to fill out the roster.

This team sucks because we are getting what the Maloof are paying to have on the team. They are continuing with their paying as little as possible approach and as long as they are the owners this team is going suck because they won’t spend money. They don’t have it to spend.

The Kings have the second lowest salary in the league. Have not went out after impact players and are continuing to try to limp along with re-treads or the bare minimum in talent. And, given this, we still expect them to compete against playoff teams?

If the Kings used the salary they had wisely it would be different, but Salmons and Outlaw are prime examples of this team settling for second rate talent. Hayes is little better.

We just can’t expect success when the minimum salary allowed is $48.3 million and the team pays $48.9 million. Just enough to barely be above the minimum.

Um,

I think that most of us are very well aware that this team is still being run on the cheap, by the cheap.

I am not so sure.

We have been told that the Maloofs opened their wallets. This has been said by many to be the case, but when you look salary it just isn’t the truth.

Seems that I read a lot of negativity at a lot of levels about Petrie not making moves. I don’t think he has made great moves, but the purse strings seem to have been used to keep his hands tied.

Similarly, there is a lot of complaints players, and I get the frustration, but have to remind myself that this is really due to owners who can’t field a competitive team. I think some members focus on individual players to vent their frustration on and a lot of that is because we were told the Maloof have been spending. It’s just not true though.

It’s just too easy to blame others and I don’t know that everybody gets just how hamstrung this team is by the Maloofs.

Sorry but Petrie could have walked

it’s not like he didn’t know what he was getting into.

Exactly. If nothing else, his actions signal acquiescence with the Maloof plan to starve the beast.

Yes

If Petrie is not allowed to spend, and in such “hot demand” around the league (as we have been brainwashed to believe) he would have walked by now.

I don't know where you're reading this stuff

Yes, a couple of members have said that the Maloofs have spent more money. But I just don’t recall this site taking the stance that the franchise has “opened their wallets.”

In fact, when we polled the site a couple of weeks ago, ownership was the overwhelming choice for blame.

Maybe you’re reading stuff somewhere else and then translating it back to here, but I think that the majority of the staff and membership here is well aware of the penny pinching ways of the franchise and the effect that it has had on the product.

"opened their wallets?" or "wallets forced open to take away their stake in the Palms?"

I would say they opened their wallets about 2%

That didn't come across as intended

It was not my intent to state that StR mislead fans. No, that isn’t the case. Clearly TZ has questioned their spending from day one.

The PR from the Kings is what I am referencing. They said that they were going to spend and really didn’t. Sure, they spent some and that has been reported here, as was their stated intent to spend, but clearly at just over league minimum their spending really was not substantial or significant.

I do have to wonder. How do we go after Petrie so hard and up the criticism of him given the reality of our ownership deficits? Petrie is taking a lot of hits even at the mothership from TZ and nationally, but what if he has no option to do more. Should he quit and leave the franchise in even further disarray?

He may just be waiting for new ownership. Sure he could be just mailing it in, but he might also be trying to hold the whole franchise together by a shoestring until a better ownership group is in place.

Ah, got it

Thanks for the clarification.

I think that a lot of free agents were turned off

by the fact that they did not know if they would be playing in Sac OC KC or ? next season. At least if I were an UFA that would be in my top 3 priorities along with $ and winning.

One would think so if they are agreeing to multi-year deals

Mislead?

Where you been?

Give him credit, Wally

He just figured this Maloof non-spending thing out. He thought he was enlightening the rest of us, unaware that we are well ahead of him.

No actually I am well aware...

But, I do have to remind myself of the situation because it is all to easy to believe the crap from the Maloofs that they are going to spend and that this was proven by getting Salmons and Hayes. Otherwise, I find myself starting to look for others to blame.

You're preaching to the choir

You make it sound like you have just become newly enlightened of the fact the Maloofs have barely spent anymore on the team, than they did previously.

Don’t listen to the Maloofs anymore. They’ll tell you what they think you want to hear. They have proven themselves to be liars.

Agreed liars lie, repeatedly

I think I was responding to what I saw as blame casting in the above and other posts as well as from other media sources.

People are understandably looking for somebody to blame and it is easy to forget just how messed over we are with the Maloofs and go off on a rant against Petrie or the players.

I catch myself doing it and see it happening here. It is all to easy to shift blame onto those that may be more subject to bad ownership than we realize. And I used to be very critical of Petrie, but given our ownership… Not so sure that is an easy of a case to make.

I think that some of what the Maloofs put out, that they were willing to spend, got inserted in the narrative without waiting to see if they made good on that promise. There was a push to give them a chance to redeem themselves to Sacramento. I don’t think they have owned up to that chance, but then yeah the choir know that.

We were told that offers were made.

Even in the end to Dalembert. We did offer him more than Houston did. The players have to accept for the money to be “spent”. They did not.

Beno is making 7mil this year with a player option for nearly 8mil for next season which I’m sure he’ll exercise. Salmons is making 7mil this year with two more years guaranteed at nearly 15mill. 15>8 so yes the Maloof’s spent more $ in that instance.

I’m not defending them and I understand your frustration. I am frustrated too! But in fairness it’s been reported that they have made offers and have attempted to spend not that they have spent.

StevenG - January 26, 2012 reply

Total aside

but how in the hell have we not photoshopped this pic yet?

One problem I have with this picture

This is not a fair depiction of the Maloof brothers. Neither of them would ever dress this well.

Or have that big of a briefcase filled with cash

Or have such a healthy skin color.

Agree

They would select the shirt on the far right for sure! No suits for these bafoons!

Dirkula - January 26, 2012 reply

That dude has some pretty awesome clevage

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing for Kings fans

Last nights game, or the fact that our owners are on album covers like htis

Oh that's easy, it's option 3

These are our owners

This is a photoshop right?

Our owners don’t have as much money as shown in the cover.

Is Keak Da Sneak related to Rupe da Hoop?

This is actually a surprisingly good mixtape

if you’re in the mood for bay area hiphop

Dave Carmichael

About to rip the FO and the Kings a new one in a professional manner, I think. I hope he speaks some truth here.

HarveySpecter - January 26, 2012 via Android app reply

Dave is also the same guy who said that we should trade Tyreke and others

For Dwight Howard and take on Hedo’s bad contract as well. Which would essentially net us, the rest of this season being enjoyable, Dwight Howard leaving at the end of the year and now all we have is Hedo’s bad contract. He lets his emotions cloud logical thought quite often.

Dave’s awesome, but he goes insane sometimes

I think Dave's point

is that you have to take a gamble sometimes to bet better. They’ve been taking the “play it safe” route since about 2005 and it’s gotten them nowhere but the NBA cellar. Maybe it’s time this team take a chance because it certainly can’t make things any worse. Get Deron Williams, Get Dwight Howard, get Paul Pierce, etc. All three of those guys are probably available for the right price. i’m not even sure the Kings have what it would take to get any of those guys, but at least TRY. Give your fans something to hope for at least.

They have tried

They tried to get Deron Williams, and Tony Parker in the last year. They asked about Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler, in the off season. However, in the absence of being able to pull off those moves you still have to think about building the team intelligently instead of throwing shit at the fan. OKC, Indiana, Sixers, Denver, Memphis and Utah have all built teams without acquiring those types of players. They’ve done it in less than half the time it’s taken Petrie to get this far. The Kings are still at square one right now.

Utah built it's team without aquiring players like Deron Williams?

They built their team by getting rid of him

Yes and no

The best team they’ve had in recent years was Deron and Boozer. Last year they sucked. This year’s team is better, but again only because they had Deron to trade in the first place.

I cited all those teams because they are having success currently, with rosters that were smartly built through trades and the draft without having to acquire a top tier free agent.

I agree

Just saying in the case of the Jazz that they drafted a top tier player. I personally think Cuz is going to end up being worth at least as much as Deron. Just hope we don’t trade him.

OKC, Indiana, Sixers, Denver, Memphis and Utah all have better rosters

than the Kings. The Kings best player would be the third bets player on most of those teams. That’s the problem. This roster is never going anywhere unless they manage to get lucky in the draft or make a trade for someone like Williams and just hope to resign him. It seems to be that this rebuild is officially a failure now, so it’s time to do something, ANYTHING to shake things up. Can’t just keep going on year after year with no improvement this way.

I'm not sure the draft is going to help much here

This organization will destroy any young player that comes through here because there is no intelligent plan on building a team. Petrie’s philosophy is throw shit out there and see what sticks without regard to how they compliment each other.

Petrie article in the Bee

stated that he has no relationship with other GMs. Makes it tough to make moves when you won’t talk to the other teams…

CousinsEvansDUO - January 26, 2012 reply

Fair point, however

He had a great argument, however emotional, from the point of the fans today. I liked what he had to say.

HarveySpecter - January 26, 2012 via Android app reply

The good news about getting blown out at least two games in a row is that usually the next game we end up with a surprise game. With two days of practice I have a feeling Utah will fall in the list of “embarrassing loss to the kings”.
Jimmer has been shooting VERY well, and playing in Utah I think he will ignite into flames for 30points-3rebounds-6assists-3steals. Cousins with 25-18-3. Al Jefferson fouls out of game.

Al Jefferson might not play

Derrick Favors could be starting against DMC

My plan is to trade JJ for Favors

but make sure they don’t pass their physicals until after the game so they can’t play. That would be a win win scenario for us.

The only good thing about the blowouts is that I can change the channel and find real basketball after the first quarter

I hope your right and we beat Utah, but I’m not confident this team can beat anyone right now untill a major event happens. Major event as in trading multiple players (including starters) or a players development taking a huge leap (like DMC an allstar or Jimmer averaging 20+ for a stretch).

People are really sleeping on Utah

can we get Billy Beane as the GM, maybe he can find an undervalued PG and SF that actually deserves to start

Since the Maloofs won’t spend any money to overpay an upper tier player to come to Sac

MrMLo42 - January 26, 2012 via iPhone app reply

I'm not a baseball fan, but I became an A's fan after watching Moneyball

If only Petrie could find a Jonah Hill assistant manager…

you know that movie took a lot of creative licenses right?

hearsay

But I am pretty sure Beane never got to sleep with Jolie

you're right, it really wasn't Billy Beane

It was Jonah Hill that did all the work in Moneyball. Hope Smart picks up Jonah Hill, that dudes a genius. Is that why we called Honeycutt up from the D league?

MrMLo42 - January 27, 2012 via iPhone app reply

No, no, no.

We want overvalued players who don’t deserve to start. And on that count, we are wildly successful.

If Billy Beane was our GM

DMC and Tyreke would already have been traded for 8 D League players

elSAVinator - January 26, 2012 reply

Its all ok..We got 8 Whitesides

You shoulda totally sneaked in a Yeti in one of those pics

I should have but i miss the Yeti too much..He has gone off to greener caves

Widowwolf - January 27, 2012 reply

Pretty sure the Rockets already got him

CousinsEvansDUO - January 26, 2012 reply

Frustrating isn't even the word...

No, we don’t need a superstar. Denver is the PRIME PERFECT example of this. They have no one dominant player and they are a damn good team. We play selfishly…We do not RUN anything on offense. We have a lot of one on one players that do not look to pass first. It starts with management at the top. The maloofs haven’t invested money into putting a winner on the court. It trickles down from there. They have ZERO pride and accountability for themselves. When does it get to the point when you begin to start taking these blowouts PERSONAL?!?! When it gets to 50 and 60 points?? I hate that we just mope around and pout. They are PROFESSIONALS for C%&ist’s sake. The thing that really gets me is the fact that they make the SAME mistakes OVER and OVER without correcting it. No one gets back on D, no helpside, we just flat out do not make shots, and we have the lowest assist total in the league which tells you we are one thing: SELFISH. You can’t win with a bunch of ME mentalities.

G McDiddy - January 26, 2012 reply

Awwwwh……..but but but but but but but BUTTTTTTT Tyreke has been trying very very very hard to pass the ball and get it to open shots but our guys have slow hands and always make their shots harder than it needs to be. outlaw, hickson, salmons dont know how to catch the ball lol and tyreke seems to find them the most.

Hey Keith - How long was the honeymoon?

Or...

Hey Keith, how many passes per possession or seconds off the shot clock until somebody can jack up a three or long two?

:::

DiegoKing - January 26, 2012 reply

What the?

Blech!

Remember when a Google image of a hematoma was the most disgusting thing to set eyes on?

Us in this game = look at that pic for 2 hours.

elfboy_ - January 26, 2012 reply

Today my grandma said the Kings are more like a high school team

than an NBA team. True story.

CousinsEvansDUO - January 26, 2012 reply

I'm sure it was said several times above somewhere

But another loss or two like that, the continued fail of Salmons and Outlaw

and Petrie will be gone very very soon. IF they can find someone who will take the job.

lietothegirls - January 26, 2012 reply

have chris webber take the job!

I'd rather have Barkley

He has said he wants to GM and he really knows his stuff

elSAVinator - January 26, 2012 reply

What is Barkley's resume to be a GM?

Exactly. Thats why it's genius!!

elSAVinator - January 26, 2012 reply

Smokescreen!

Maybe Steve Kerr will be down for another go?

But his biggest issue, from what I remember, was Robert Sarver’s cheapness. So…maybe not.

Last night

I’m starting to wonder about this teams collective basketball IQ, that was at times a really dumb performance. I gets old seeing the Kings taking the same bad shots by the same players on a consistent basis, Tyreke who hasn’t been shooting at a great percentage, JJ Hickson and his jumper and John Salmons come to mind here. Jimmer has been struggling at least looks to try to make the extra pass when maybe he is open he could shoot. JT is what he is a journey man big man who has a semblance of a low post game who is learning to play to his limitations. Sadly that message has been lacking on others on this team. Cousins apparently has a post game it’s a shame we don’t see it much

Is Tyreke getting some input from the coaching staff as his game is still really inconsistent, worse case its as good as its going to get or he doesn’t want to be coached. Best case he is unique talent who needs a more unique supporting cast. I’m starting to think it’s the former rather than the latter

I don’t need Grant and Jerry counting Cousins rebounds and Tyreke’s assist totals either

Murf - January 26, 2012 reply

Paint your face Salmons

Hilarious how last night when they showed a Gallinari highlight it was John Salmons playing his infamous Olay defense..Blow by’s all day long. Don’t even amnesty him, just cut his sorry @$$. So tired of watching him play so lackadaisical.

G McDiddy - January 26, 2012 reply

Send him to the D-League

(not actually serious, but I’d be down)

On a side note

Is Jim Rome always so damn annoying? I loved hearing Dave Carmichael today. But if I hear Dirk and his comment during the Mavs game one more time I will consider breaking his nose.

I mean honestly. Really KHTK? Why are you playing an LA sports station?

HarveySpecter - January 26, 2012 via Android app reply

Rome gets ratings..plain and simple- They all 1140 now The Fan – It’s cause all the do is suck and blow hot air..

Rome is huge nationally

He’s not just popular in LA. I can understand not liking his style though. He will beat a certain topic to death, but most radio guys do as well. I say give Rome at least a week or two so you can pick up on the lingo and history of the sound bytes.
As far as KHTK…Geronimo, Dave, and Grant are all pretty bad. Rome is head and shoulders above those guys.

ItsALeagueGame - January 26, 2012 reply

I've gave Rome plenty of time

I can’t stand him. I can only listen to his interviews. What’s more annoying is 1320 doesn’t cover Dan Patrick anymore. Now they cover The Herd in that time slot, because of that I now take an early lunch(11:00) so I can listen to Dave on my lunch break. I use to take lunch at 12:00ish so I could listen to Dan Patrick.

Cowherd was talking about how the patriots were so good because

They take the smart, team oriented player over the talented, dumb player…..need I say what category we fit into?

You're using Cowherd to back up a point??

Really? We're going down the Cowherd road on this?

Using Colin Cowherd to make your point?

Easy defensive nutbags! It was hi show... Parcels was the one talking about the pats

I could have sworn someone described it as "Cowherd was talking about"

One can make the point about being team oriented and smart without a football reference but whatever. I personally am not the biggest fan given the sports are so different but at the same time I get where you are coming from.

However, nobody should ever make a point starting with “Cowherd was talking about.” The guy has shown himself to be the absolute scum of scum in national sports talk and he can tell me the sky is blue and I still don’t want to hear it from him.

That’s all we’re saying.

The trade dealine has not yet passed...

there’s still time to trade back for Dalembert and Beno!

brian_1055 - January 26, 2012 reply

Good Luck

Widowwolf - January 27, 2012 reply

In a crap game like this

You have to look for the silver lining. Jimmer continued to shoot well and Honeycutt got a little garbage-time burn. And Isaiah hit a few shots that he has been missing. That’s about it.

NewEraKings - January 27, 2012 reply

I got one more!

Cousins, 17-15