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Joe Maloof Denies Kings Are Considering Replacement For Geoff Petrie

A report that surfaced Tuesday in a newspaper blog attributed only to a text message denied our report that the Kings have recently considered replacing Geoff Petrie as the team's president of basketball operations.

[A] report that surfaced Tuesday night (sic) in a fan blog attributed only to sources - that Kings co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof have considered relieving Petrie of his position and have contacted a management agent - has been denied forcefully by Joe Maloof.

"No, this is not true," Maloof texted The Bee. "I had heard about (the rumor). We will be fine. We have had the toughest schedule in the league by far."

That denial was so forceful I believe that Joe Maloof broke the "o" on his Blackberry keyboard. (Seriously, a forceful text message?)

Of course, there was nothing else Maloof could say in response to this question; there's a reason "vote of confidence" is a global sports joke. I stand by our report here and at SBNation.com.

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Is this true?
We have had the toughest schedule in the league by far.

The only real SOS I can find online is ESPN’s, and it shows us 7th.

B-Ref

has us at No. 3.

So

The writer spent more energy trying to make StR look like a second-class outlet than fact-checking Maloofs’ SOS claim.

Yep.

Counter-balance

NBC Sports seems to think your sources are valid.

in all fairness

When Voison attributes something to sources people dump on her about it too. I’ll give you mad props if Petrie is actually fired, but until then I don’t buy it.

The thing about sources

Petrie might be fired, Petrie might not be. That doesn’t mean the source wasn’t credible. It could simply mean the Maloofs explored the idea of firing him, but decided not to.

My report ...

… was that they had considered it recently and reached out to an agent, but that nothing was imminent. I didn’t report that Petrie will definitely be fired by X day.

fair enough

But when you say the Maloofs reached out to an agent about replacing Petrie all that I hear is that the Maloofs are firing Petrie and putting Jimmer in charge of the front office.

You mean Ken Whisenhunt?
Rupe the Hoop
Isn't he the CEO of La Pinta Salsa?
Reporters are now responsible for the inferences you make?

Just making sure I know the rules.

it really doesn't matter, but...

the only way for me to know that Ziller’s sources are credible is if Petrie actually gets fired. Unless there is another way to prove that they are considering firing someone? If it means that much to you then screw it… Ziller, I giveth you mad props.

Too bad no one has explained this to George...
Of course, there was nothing else Maloof could say in response to this question
Prepare for the Wrath of Peaches!
complete aside

but was looking over the sacbee comments and noticed a KingWally in there. Kind of threw me off a little.

That's a non-denial denial!

Are you or are you not KingWally???

lol, I am not KingWally.

Someone also used my wallywagon11 there about a year or two ago to talk shit about the Kings too (I dunno if you guys remember stinkyfingers from GSoM and of his other names but pretty sure that was him)

There is also an anti-arena Otis on sacbee(at least there used to be)

You playing both sides of the arena?

I did wonder...

didn’t sound like you, though.

Fan Blog?

Ziller’s a pretty legit journalist. I’d consider this a legit news blog more than a fan blog, but to each their own

In a way STR is like the Sacbee or other news sites

STR posts Kings news articles and the readers comment below. We just aren’t as anti-everything as the sacbee people.

flagged!

In a way STR is like the Sacbee or other news sites

LOL

I just skipped over this reading it the first time:

[A] report that surfaced Tuesday night (sic)

That’s some high quality journalism by our local birdcage liner!

Well if a Maloof says so

it must be true

I have this vision of the brothers putting in enough coins to open the mechanism,

and then grabbing three papers out of the box.

or sticking a nickel in a quarter candy machine

and giving it a turn, just to see what happens…

What time is the kings at warriors preview going to be up!? I Can’t wait to watch this game!!!!! It’s time to stop our losing streak.

Warriors are looking to end a losing streak too

Should make for a hard fought game. Kings/Warriors game usually are.

Just avoid a blow out

Yeah, I lowered my expectations.

Petrie MUST BE the problem

OK…I’m getting tired of the Petrie has to fall on the sword crap that seems to be trendy.

Ownership promised spending this off season. Ownership promised NOT to be at the barely over the minimum salary floor. AND YET HERE WE ARE AGAIN!

You want to rip Petrie for the Salmons trade… go for it. I HATED that trade the moment it was announced. But it was done, IMO, as a financial decision.

Our big off season acquisition… our STUD was Chuck Hayes… REALLY? That was not the splash I was hoping for this season. No disrespect to Chuck Hayes, but the first time I go to a Kings game to see Chuck Hayes will be the first time I go to see a Kings game because of Chuck Hayes.

We have among the lowest payroll in the league. We didn’t go after ANY significant free agents that I can remember.

That’s an ownership problem. I don’t care about Petrie taking risks in the hopes of finding a great talent on the cheap. That’s all you can do if ownership won’t let you spend any money.

How about “let Petrie spend some money” instead of “fire Petrie” as our motto?

How was the Salmons trade a financial decision

when it wound up costing the team more money?

I'm not referring to that trade as purely a cost cutting effort

In my opinion, the decision was made to cut salary AND give playing time to a new guard (Jimmer), and keeping Beno was expensive insurance they didn’t want to spend.

Salmons started off in Milwaukee as the jolt in the arm their offense needed, then after getting paid, Salmons regressed But Milwaukee wasn’t exactly in love with John Salmons at the time of his departure.

I am guessing that we could have got Salmons for a first round pick straight up, and Beno was thrown in to save money.

That element of the trade makes it financial and cost cutting in nature.

Wow, that's quite a route

Try this one on for size: The Kings don’t make the trade, they keep Beno (who is cheaper annually and has one less year on his contract), and they draft Kawhi Leonard. They are now better at SF than they currently are, and Beno is no worse in the short term as a 3rd guard than Fredette.

If you are implying that this trade was mandated by ownership, then Petrie should walk or be canned, as he nothing more than a paper tiger.

You won’t find anyone on this board that lays more rational blame at the feet of the brothers than me, and you would be hard pressed to find a bigger supporter of Petrie over the years. But he spit the bit on this trade, and gummed up the Hickson/Casspi-draft pick deal, too. Yeah, he’s on a tight budget. But he’s failed recently with whatever wiggle room that he has been given.

Just to speculate...

What if he was going after trying to upgrade the SF spot (so in this scenario he still effed up), but didn’t want to have to pay that much more than the current roster, so he decided Beno’s contract was close enough to axe, thinking Tyreke and Thornton could fill the void.

Still a bad trade and decision, but doesn’t seem unrealistic with this FO

You didn't like my leap based on no facts?

I’m angry at the ownership group, and I have no problem admitting that I don’t trust the intentions of the Maloofs.

That could probably, slightly, maybe alter my perspective on a guy who otherwise has done a pretty good job as GM

I was not a Jimmer guy, and don’t think he excites me as a long term lottery talent. I hope I am wrong.

We have the cap space, we’ve been told for a long time that big change and spending is coming….and it hasn’t materialized.

Excuse my convenient arrangement of opinion to support my own conclusions!

Nobody was excited about James Harden in the 2009 draft either.
I think lttg was huge for him

I kid, I kid (Thabeeeet!!!!!)

Just curious but just speaking for yourself

are you really pro firing Petrie this next offseason or just don’t see the point of defending him and couldn’t care much either way?

I'm to the point where I don't care

I don’t think that any GM can be successful under current ownership, but Petrie has definitely left a lot to be desired with most his recent decisions involving players and coaches.

I think that is where most people (including myself) are

and there are some who have some strong disagreements with how this franchise is run and there are some who think it all falls on the Maloofs.

The flash point was the lack of spending this year

The entire “blow it up and rebuild” movement was geared around this year, and it did not happen. Whatever the reason, the franchise failed to deliver, and the fans are left with yet another season of suck. I still think that the majority lies with the penny-pinching brothers, but that does not absolve Petrie of his mistakes.

Agree, though I think the Salmons deal was about $

They took money down the road. No big bump in salary that would have put them over the league minimum for this year. Basically swapping talent cause they needed to let Beno go and have a hole at SF.

But they didn't have to do that

I agree that the net salary bump for the next two years is a non-factor, especially when you factor in dropping three slots in the draft from a salary persepective. Net-net, the Kings took on $700k in salary this year, and reduced $300k in salary next year. But they took on an additional $7m three years from now. And while this would mean little to teams that would simply amnesty the player and eat the salary, I have zero confidence that the Malindas will ever pull the trigger – they are more likely to “K-9” Salmons than they are to amnesty him, thus creating more salary void that they would have to go out and spend on.

My issue with attempting to rationalize this deal is that they traded a serviceable if unspectacular and slightly overpaid combo guard for a substantially overpaid two guard with diminishing skills that they intended on cramming into the SF slot. To wit, Udrih’s PER numbers over the 3 years prior to the trade were 12.4/15.8/15.7, while Salmons checked in at 16.0/14.7/12.9 (Udrih is at 12.1 this year, Salmons at (guh!) 7.17.

The Kings could have retained Udrih and the pick and selected Kawhi Leonard to fill the void at the 3. They could have selected Jimmer (or Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker or Alec Burks or…) at 7 and made him earn his minutes over Evans/Thornton/Udrih, and then gone out and signed a cadaver that would have been as equally effective as Salmons.

For anyone looking for a reason to purge the front office, there is no reason to look much further than this (though giving away a draft pick in the Hickson/Casspi deal is a nice cherry on top). The Salmons deal was generally received here and nationally with great negativity, and everything that has transpired since has confirmed just how bad of a deal it was/is.

It was definitely a bad deal. I agree with you there.

I can see your point about Salmons as a diminishing talent. I don’t like him on this team either. Whereas Beno seemed to be coming into his own, but I guess my take on it is that it is at least as much about the money as it was anything else.

Just curious about whether or not you factored in the salary savings from moving down from 7th to 10th pick. They saved about half a million each year of the 3 contract and a lot more when you factor in the extension.

A 7th round pick would have cost them @$15.5 million over five years whereas the 10th round pick costs them @$10.5 million. They saved $5 million over the course of Jimmer’s expected contract. That almost effectively, as in a net cost, makes the deal a wash and a net savings to the franchise over the years.

I do really get your point about the Salmons deal being pretty damned bad. He stinks. No way around that. Petrie must not have been high on Kawhi Leonard and felt like he would not fill the void at the 3. Seemed like the best talent was in the guards from that draft.

if Petrie is hamstrung, with the Maloofs unwilling to go above league minimum, then he may have had few choices, but clearly this was a bad trade and yeah, guh, the draft pick really hurts.

I think Petrie could go, but would prefer there be a complete changing of ownership first with a full on house cleaning up and down the whole franchise.

Uhm.. Just re-read your post

I see you did address salary from the rookie contract. I think it adds up to more over time, but am going to go finish my coffee before I push the foot past the choking point in my throat. Gnawing on it is bad enough.

The draft savings

is roughly $600k annually for each of the first 3 years. It’s about $800k in the 4th year (provided that the options are picked up), and the 5th year is a qualifying offer year, which of course comes down to market demand.

I think Petrie could go, but would prefer there be a complete changing of ownership first with a full on house cleaning up and down the whole franchise.

This would be my preference as well.

The thought of the Maloofs picking a new GM...

Enough to give me nightmares.

Well,

they would probably insist on someone that would work for cheap, never question their motives, suck to them big time, and basically just agree to be a shill for them:

Oh boy!

Funny! But yeah that scares me...
, and then gone out and signed a cadaver that would have been as equally effective as Salmons.

They did that. His name was TRAVIS OUTLAW

I wanted to laugh...

But I couldn’t. Man that just sucks.

We didn't give away a first round pick for salmons

Just moved down 3 spots (face….) The first round pick was given away for jj hickson (…palm)

Youre making it too complicated. We traded for john salmons because petrie thought john salmons would help this team win games. just bask in that one for a while.

Wasn't given away really

I’m sure the most they’ll get is that second round deal (or whatever it was) down the line

That's not really a good thing

Because that means we’re in for more years of suck

Correct me if I'm wrong

Didn’t Petrie have offers out to Jamal Crawford, AK47, & Dalembert all around the same time? With Chuck Hayes & MT23 signed a little while before that? That doesn’t really sound like a GM who is has that short of a spending leash.

I know he’s been on a tight budget in years passed but it didn’t really seem that way this offseason.

Even then only a few of those moves made sense & none were really big slashes in of themselves.

IMO AK47 would have been great. Only maybe you can offer a little more money if we don’t have Salmons sucking up $9 million in cap space

Chuck Hayes is nice but he should have never traded for JJ, signed Hayes AND Dalembert thus giving us a very solid veteran front line in DMC, Dalembert, Hayes, & JT

Jamal Crawford made no sense because we have MT23.

Jimmer should have never been given a significant role by trading Beno without earning it.

Jamal Crawford is better than Marcus Thornton

I had to start off by saying that 1st. Crawford also made a great decision to go to Portland over Sac. Sorry to say it, but the Kings organization is trash and will continue to be until new life runs it from the top down.

Petrie is a moron for targeting Hayes in free agency and not making it a priority to re-sign Dalembert. I still can’t figure out the logic behind that decision. Dalembert is much better than Hayes. I do like Hayes as a role player but to choose him over Dalembert is absurd. I completely agree with you that it would have been better to not acquire Hickson, and instead put together a frontcourt of DMC, Dalembert, Hayes, & JT. That would have been solid.

AK47 would have been nice, but he doesn’t want to play in the NBA this year. I highly doubt he would choose Sac anyway. Petrie screwed up big time by re-acquiring Salmons, and I still can’t figure out the reason for that either. Instead of keeping Beno and using the 7th pick to draft a talent like Kemba Walker, Marshon Brooks, Brandon Knight, or Kawhi Leonard, we trade Beno and the 7th pick for Salmons and Jimmer at the 10th pick. Again, makes no sense. Jimmer is only a shooter and nothing more. Meanwhile, Donte Greene is the best small-forward on this team, yet the franchise chooses to keep him on the bench while Salmons misses shot after shot. Makes absolutely no sense. To sum it up, Maloofs & Petrie need to be replaced. Change is long past due.

Greene stinks just like Salmons.

Camp out behind the arc and can’t can’t hit three point shots, honestly that’s the first thing that comes to my mind whenever I hear Donte Greene’s name. We are so screwed at the SF position, sigh.

Donte

I think Donte is playing for his career every time he gets on the court. He knows the Kings will probably let him walk so he jacks up shot after shot hoping someone outside the organization notices.

I could be wrong but I think if Smart gets in his ears & tells him exactly the things he does do well & stick to it(cut to the basket, play defense, only take wide open shots) he could fit in well with the starting line-up.

I think rumor that don't happen have to be suspect
who would they have spent on?

this isnt baseball where you can just outbid everyone.

Was "fire Petrie" even a motto?
It is becoming fashionable

To say “Petrie must go”

I will say this

the “fire Petrie” and “bench Salmons” and “start Honeycutt” rants after losses are no bueno.

At the same time though, can’t really complain too much about game thread rants.

Yes, after Fire PW came true it became cool to try to get Petrie out too
I think more than anything you are seeing a "Everything Must Go" movement in regards to the front office

where are the John Salmons defenders?

Exactly

from players to ownership; its getting to the point where everyone needs to go. I can’t think of a player that I would consider untradeable.

The Petrie apologists need to stop and open their eyes.

First the Chuck Hayes signing is on Petrie as he was the one that negotiated the contract. I still am holding out hope that it will work out, but the injuries are not helping. This collection of talent is on Petrie. He brought in a bunch a of players who don’t compliment each other well at all. Some have bad attitudes (Salmons, Cousins, although lately Cousins has gotten better). And they all just seem to me to be a collection of underachievers with the exception of the rooks as they are expected to have a steep learning curve with out actually training camps and Cousins who has improved a lot from last year. Cousins and JT seem to be the only ones who have worked hard on the games in the offseason and through the lockout.

Pretty sure the Hayes thing wasn't exactly something Petrie could have a remote chance of seeing

I know, the poster I was replaying to was implying the Chuck Hayes was the Maloofs signing. I was just saying that it was Petrie’s call, there for if he dose not work out then the blame falls squarely on Petrie. The jury still out on this signing.

But what if the signing was motivated by money (aka Maloofs)

and Hayes was seen as the best alternative for less money. It can go in circles forever.

All in all, I think everyone needs to go, starting with the Owners. New start for a new arena!

I agree that the entire organization needs a complete rebuild. But Its harder to that when the owner won’t sell.

On the plus side

Right when the Kings were denied a chance to move, the NBA marketing people flooded into Sac and were the people running things here. We haven’t heard any change form that.

The arena negotiations have been largely between the NBA, AEG, and the city. We haven’t heard any significant change from that.

We had a billionare sports junky sniffing around who could right now be a major player in bidding on the Los Angeles Dodgers but isn’t.

We have owners who can buy back 20% interest in the business they started so long as they get some liquidity.

We also have owners who want to move to a location where another franchise will likely have a strong case to demand $200+ million dollars from them.

Hey, we’ve seen crazier things.

The Chuck Hayes signing will go down as a failure

Just projecting based on 3% of precincts reporting

True that! Chuck Hayes as a starting PF in the NBA? Has Petrie lost it? Chuck can't shoot for his life.
I agree

I haven’t been thrilled with the job Petrie has done, but it’s hard for me to blame him when the Maloofs won’t spend. If other teams are allowed to spend $10-20 million more than us, its like they start the game with 1-2 more high level players.

I’m fine with firing Petire, but I would like it to come after new ownership takes over. I find it hard to believe that a new GM would be able to attract more talent on a Maloof budget.

I agree. I want the Maloofs to sell too. But I don’t think it will happen unless they have no other option. So right now, they need to hire a guy that can work some magic with the budget he is givin. I believe Petrie has failed at that.

and..

Now all we need is a Petrie/Liam Neilson photoshop
You mean

if you guys run the Kings out of Sacramento If the Kings run themselves out of Sacramento.

There’s no way in Hell you can’t say the fans haven’t been loyal and bled black and purple all over for this team.

I'm not even trying to start something by saying that

I’m just pointing out that the rift between you guys and the Maloofs resembles the rift between Shin and the Charlotte fans. I hope the Kings stay in Sacramento, but this is getting ugly.

That just goes to show even more that the problem isn't the fans, it's the owner(s).
Getting ugly?

Those three stooges tried to take the team out of Sacramento. Now they are spending money like they said they would and are instead just barely paying league salary minimum. If they can’t pony up the $ then get the hell out. Well, really just get the hell out no matter what.

Now they are NOT spending money like they said they would…. Jeez, where is the coffee…

I know Petrie has some notable failures this season

Do the Kings really need a new GM? Wouldn’t it be better to turn the team over to Jerry Sloan as coach. He can beat on these young players and teach them to play more fundamental basketball meanwhile a nondescript GM can enter in the background over a two year grace period?

I never trust a new NBA GM. By new I mean new to the team. More often than not these guys come in pissing all over the place to mark their territory or a puppet to a clueless owner … or worse sometimes both! They always end up making 1-2 franchise disaster trades to prove their clout.

Petrie has notable failures going back to when he joined the Kings

Not saying everything he does is cursed, but he has done some pretty dumb moves in my opinion. The worst part about it is that he hasn’t faced real criticism for years. It doesn’t matter who is the coach. Petrie is the guy who makes personnel decisions as to who wears a Kings uniform. Kings need a new mind running things. New owner, new GM, To end on a positive note, I will give him credit for drafting Isaiah Thomas with the last pick of the 2011 draft. Thank God he didn’t mess that one up

If you are listening trading Corliss, Hedo, and Jwill as three of those failures

strongly strongly strongly strongly strongly disagree

Now trading Wahad and a first round pick for Nick Anderson is a different story.

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