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Kings 83, Nuggets 110: We've Seen This Movie Before

This is getting to the point where I almost need to create a template for these recaps and just fill in the blanks. Once more the Kings face a team missing it's best player (I "joked" pre-game that without Nene we'd lose by 30), and end up getting blown out. No one person on the Nuggets stood out, although Al Harrington led Denver with 15 points. It was an ultimate team effort by them, and they killed the Kings in transition (31 fast break points) and in the paint (62 points in the paint). The Nuggets had 31 assists on 46 made baskets, while the Kings had yet another game with more turnovers (16) than assists (12).

DeMarcus Cousins had his best game of the season by far for the Kings, scoring 26 points on 9-12 shooting in just 25 minutes while also playing decently on the defensive end. About the only thing he didn't do well was rebound (only 3 rebounds) and the team as a whole was killed on the boards by Denver (49 to 37). This might be explained by the fact that Denver scored 60.5% of their shots while the Kings managed a paltry 32.6%. Aside from Cousins, Marcus Thornton was the only one able to get anything going, scoring 23 on 8-20 shooting. Take those two players away, and the Kings only shot 13 of 60 or 21.6%. Let that sink in for a moment.

Tyreke Evans only played 23 minutes and missed most of the 2nd half after throwing up during halftime, likely because he watched some first half highlights (H/T Heuristic Lineup).

Star-divide

This team looks lost out there. They give up way too easily and it just seems like they aren't putting in maximum effort. Even when Denver emptied out their bench at the end of the game, they continued to build up their lead and play with energy. You could say the Kings are suffering from tired legs, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, and while I believe that's an issue for some (particularly the rookies who really struggled with their shot tonight), I think the bigger issue is that the team at large isn't putting forth 100% effort, and that is a major problem.

Paul Westphal is a good person. I've met him a few times and I've come away with good impressions. But as of now, I don't think he is the coach this team needs or wants. The team needs a breath of fresh air, a new outlook, and Westphal is not bringing it. I don't know how successful an interim coach like Keith Smart or even a new hire (which rarely happens mid-season) can be, particularly with the compressed season and little practice time, but at this point, I think you have to try.

The start to this season has been more frustrating to me than any season in recent memory. We weren't supposed to be this bad. I don't think most fans thought we'd be contenders or even necessarily in the playoff hunt, but at least be competitive night in and night out. Especially after the craziness of last season and the relocation issue, and then the months of no basketball due to the lockout, I, as well as many other fans, were so pumped up for the Kings to be returning to Sacramento and to hopefully begin their rise to relevance once more. Instead it looks like our annual tradition of getting screwed in the lottery will continue for the foreseeable future.

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Face palm

That is all.

Not trying to pile on, but this is my therapy

The burger or what he did before the burger?
Or is it the Six Dollar Burger

That ceremonially signaled the beginning of the Maloof collapse

Its ok guys we can win tomorow tomorow cousins will get 40 points because today he got 27 for 25 minutes so tomorow he will play for 35 or 40 minutes so yeah at least cousins will decimate our opponents tomorow.

If he doesn't foul out.

Leads the league in fouls presently

Two Words

Not Good

I just don't know what to say or do anymore,

Frustrating isn’t man enough of a word to describe the wretchedness of watching these games. I wish I was the kind of fan that could just turn the fucking TV off.

I'm not that type of fan.

But this team has made me value my time a bit more.

I'm not normally that type of fan either

I watched most of 3 quarters. Then fashioned a crude medal out of an old beer can and awarded it to myself for leaving it on that long.

Side note: how many excreable passes do I have to watch chuck hayes throw until I can break my tv when peaches refers to him as “normally a very good passer?”

The wife came in with dinner

I said “Ohhh, You don’t want to watch this”
She “You’re right”

Somehow I watched the rest later in the night.

Hey we still have a game tomorrow.

I bet you we will be blown out once again and the whole team will throw up

Dear Jimmer and Co.

Enough with the embarrassing blowouts. We get it. You wanted to prove everyone wrong that said you’d be good this year. Mission accomplished.
You can stop now.

Sincerely,
Everyone.

This was Jimmer's mission?
No one is good under Westphal. NO ONE.

Remmeber when this team passed and got people open and easy shots…contested jumpers the whole fkn game. we pass once, dribble around and take contested shots.

Ah, it certainly is good to have Salmons back, isn't it?
Watching a Kings game is like staring at this:

Looks like its counting our opponents fast breaks
in keeping with Harvey

Westphal is obviously done now

I feel bad for him, but it’s time. I was thinking they could just let Smart take over now, but since there never was really a training camp – why not just spend on a big time coach now. Jeff Van Gundy seems like he would be a great teacher for these young guys. Don’t see Jerry Sloan coming out of retirement for this mess, which is worse than the one that made him retire.

Smart's salary is already on the books

He gets the call if/when Westphal is fired.

West Virginia football could potentially score more than us

says it all

Gotta love our 2011/2012 Washington Generals!

My favorite plays were when Birdman showered Westfal with a bucket of confetti and Gallinari pulled Jason Thompsons shorts down… Gets me every time! Go Generals!

Westphal Post Game:

“I believe that we will bounce back…the avalanche just fell on us.”

I lurves cinnamon whiskey.

LOL you keep going on about that.
Hah, I know.

It’s the only time I’ve felt like drinking for a Kings game. Exaggerating slightly, but where the hell has our team gone??

I may try it now.

I’ve always felt flavored whisky was kind of a pseudo puss drink, no offense.

None taken. I usually take Jamison straight up, but

I felt like it would be a waste on this game.

That's more like it sir.
Is it too late…

To jump on the fire Westphal bandwagon? And if not where can I board?

Its never too late but

you have to call GP’s number first and ask him to join

Fire PW NOW!!!!

DMC is having a good season in my opinion. Good D, taking charges, less complaining, decent FT%….horrible FG%…until tonight. I feel bad for him because he has been getting absolutely hacked this season and can’t get a call. Finally got some calls tonight, thank god :-P
Oh well…we might win 15 games at this rate.

Wow, amazed

that so many still think the poor play is the coach’s fault. Not getting back on D, turnovers and missed shots. DMC’s poor play was coaches fault before the game started but he played well so…. How does canning a coach and having an interim coach help?

HI PW

you suck and can’t motivate anyone

Save it for the show tomorrow, Grant.
Sorry Peaches, the Coaching was Just...

Give it up Paul, you're done!

And besides, you don’t really have to come here & convince us. We don’t make the decisions.

I think if the Kings had a real offensive gameplan

Turnovers would decrease, an they would actually get better shots, causing the FG% to go up. This would also help cut down on the amount of times they have to get back on D.

First time poster here

I think a new coach would definitely help. I understand that the coach doesn’t stop them from playing defense, or turnovers, but it would be nice to see a coach actually hold these players accountable. What does he say when he takes timeouts? Hes obviously not motivating anyone to play better. Also i realize he can’t pass the ball himself, but if there is any type of offense in place he doesn’t seem to upset when his players don’t run it. We need someone that actually has a play book. All these players had a more advanced offense in college.

All these players had a more advanced offense in college

lol

Please go away and be quiet.
Just got home, how did we do?
don't watch

unless you are a huge DMC fan

if you watch it

you might throw up too

WE WON!!!
But we didn't get 25 assists. The Tagline lives on.

If we get it tomorrow it’ll be thanks to The Bucks Guard, Beno Udrih, becuase no ones expects….. us to get 25 assists. Seriously.

I would not expect that.

Let’s hope the Yeti doesn’t disappoint.

Can We trade back Salmons for the Yeti...Puhlease!
You should add a dribble for every game where we don't.
Don't sigs have a character limit?
Rec'd

But I think I saw most of “War and Peace” in Pookey’s sig once…so there’s a chance it could all fit.

We need a very snarky flow chart of our offense
It's all I can do. Just me and my teddybear.

Just in..... Footage of inside the Kings locker room

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhjGoaKf52s

So Milwaukee tomorrow night at the end of a back-to-back-to-back

And they are already in town with a day off? Yikes!

Let's just hope that their best player isn't injured...
Bogut was just out for personal reasons last night
Oh God no.

I hope he returns.

I am pretty sure Drew Gooden through up a 20/20 night too in his absence

seems like a lot of 20/20 nights this year. Must be a lot of missed shots and offensive boards in the early going

Apparently the Milwaukee Journal has ruled Bogut out for tomorrow

He’s back home… in Australia. Wow. How crazy is this start for the Kings. No Bynum for the Lakers (won), no Amare for the Knicks (blowout loss), no Gordon for the Clippers (won), no Randolph for Memphis (blowout loss), no Nene for Denver (blowout loss), no Bogut for Milwaukee (to be determined)

Hornets

I too love E Gordon but he is no longer a Clip. CP told me this

doesn't matter cuz Beno is gonna light us up....
This is like us whenever we get within 15 points... and the card is the lead.

I’ve never, ever seen a team that can’t get some sort of offensive flow going, ever. And when a team goes on a run, is impossible to stop. I dread our rematch against LA at Staples….and I was thinking of going to that that game :(.

Terrible

It is bad, but not terrible to be 2 and 4 considering last year’s record of the teams we played, but to loose so badly is awful. I have not checked the actual statistical record, but Evans is not playing as well as he played when he was healthy last year and Thornton is not playing as well as he played with the Kings last year. My guess is that no other player is playing as well as they played last year except maybe Jason Thompson.
Westphal has never come close to having the winning record Theus had, but the local radio and newspaper columnists are not commenting negatively on Westphal.
I hate to do this after only 6 games, but if the Kings do not improve in the next ten games, Westphal has to go right away. I don’t care who takes over. I want something better. The Kings have too much talent to have this offensive incompetence.

Are you going to be

One of those people who keeps saying “We’ll do better next season?”

It’s been 3 years. There needs to be some damn improvement to this team.

Well, we were better last year, is that better?
Equally frustrated

But can a new coach actually teach them how to hit all those open shots they missed? If the Kings fire Westphal, they lose him as an excuse for their failure on the court. They’re not ready for that grenade.

Trade

Tyreke for Rubio!!!!

id rather go through this than go through the Anaheim BS again. I honestly think this team is missing a table setter. But I still think this team will do some things this year.

I’m rambling.

Boobies.

TWolves would NOT trade Rubio for Tyreke
I actually think you're right.
I saw

David Thorpe say a few days ago that maybe they should have drafted Rubio instead since theyre lacking a true passer. I think it was him.

I still remember either Hollinger or chad ford say something like

Tyreke will look like a better pick the 1st 2 years, because he’s NBA ready, but the Kings will regret it in 3 years…..or something like that

Those guys sound like real experts.

Maybe they should write columns for ESPN or Yahoo or something.

As much as I dislike them

They have been pretty spot on about our players and GP’s moves the last 5 years

Sadly, homerism is part of being a fan.

We’re only realizing now that the players we thought were saviors are seriously, seriously flawed.

yup, remember that too

but remember, Rubio had his mom help cut his steak. So clearly, we couldn’t draft him.

Adelman would

laugh in our faces.

What about Rondo for Reke
they would never do that
I think we've managed to kill the trade value of every single player on our roster.
Sadly
I remember last year de almost got Deron Williams

but they wanted Tyreke and we said no reportedly

Our first round draft pick next season should draw great value though!

Oh, wait…

Looks like we are guaranteed to keep that 1
Glass half full
Naw

I think there is only 3 sips of 6 day old warm beer in it

Except the ones that haven't played
WHITESIDE FOR DWIGHT!
I gave you a shoutout towards the top of th page.

I was wrong about DMC.

Props and a rec to you
True

But I don’t think the Kings would trade Tyreke for Rubio either. Tyreke is still better than Rubio. He’s just has a terrible coach, unlike Rubio. If Rubio had to play for Rambis or westphal he would have ran back to Europe.

well

in a nutshell, we suck. We have no interior defense. I like chuck hayes, but i really dont understand the signing. I would rather have sammy. I dont understand why we just didnt slightly overpay for him. He only signed a 7 million per with the rockets. we finished last year strong. We knew the combo of dmc and dally worked. you can tell me we couldn’t of offered sammy 2 years ay 10 million per and he wouldn’t have taken it. What would you rather have sammy or hayes and outlaw. And salmons blows my fucking mind. I really have no idea why they made that trade,

We offered him more money than any other team

And he didn’t sign with us. So, that’s why we don’t have Dally.

maybe

I just hate watching teams own the paint on us.

Only after we refused to offer him an extension before the lockout,

and we went after Hayes. I don’t know if anyone but the FO knows if we truly made Sam and offer before we voided Hayes contract.

But, you could be right, i can’t see anyone willing to come here the way things have gone.

Sacman, in a nutshell, we suck,

…………… Must not make genital related joke

Dally's probably very happy he didn't re-sign with the Kings.
This is probably why he wanted out so badly
maybe Kahns not an idiot afterall
Right?

Depressing…

K, I'm sorry for being dumb, but I have to ask

Who is Kahn? Always see it/him referred to but I have no idea what you guys are talking about ha

The GM for the Timberwolves

look him up on youtube, he is a great person to watch try to communicate

maybe we shouldn't be smug assholes

not to you sacman, just a general comment

What do we have to be smug about?
sorry should have put past tense
I still want to see another 15-20 games

I’m not ready to give up on this group yet.

If nothing changes you'd be watching another 15-20 games of what we've seen in games 2-7

Sadly, they’ve already given up. Make changes now, while the season is still young.

Who is giving up?

We all have each other to commiserate with, I mean misery loves company right? I’m going to the game tomorrow! I best medicate myself through and through.

I think they nut up and get a win tomorrow
I think they have to

Because the teams they play in the next couple weeks are not pushovers.

The Kings are the pushovers, sadly enough.
about tickets

i have season tickets sec 210 row g aisle seat. I sell the games I cant go to for $28 for both tickets. Sundays game against orlando is available. Let me know. John112478@msn.com

I'm glad I went to the store at halftime

and I only have a mild headache instead of the full on migraine I normally get from watching the entire game

Is it fair to ask the question now

Has Paul Westphal lost the team?

Is it fair to ask...

Did he ever have the team?

I think one of the positives for Westphal

Is the effort the team has been giving him, even while playing poorly.

I didn't see much effort tonight
At least we have Whiteside...so why not play the dude strategically (ha!) in spots just to swat

balls and snare rebounds? This team lacks inside presence among its other deficits. But alas we must also consider that the basketball gods are very angry with us. We have done something to create this bad JuJu. A sacrificial offering is the only thing that will placate them and change the mojo. Any suggestions?

He's in the D-League.

Same with Honeycutt. They should both be there, getting actual playing time.

Maybe this can make us feel better?

Ladies. Lots of them.

Needz moar Diogu!
But Diogu gets...

All the women.

We’re going to need one Kings dancer for each of us. From the auditions, otherwise there won’t be enough to go around.

It seems to me

That this roster needs a wake up call, and a coaching change will help that. None of these players have grown or become better in their time with this awful coach. The fact that they haven’t been competitive in these losses show that this team isn’t being coached. I’m sorry if we were to be competitive and lose every game I’d have a better taste in my mouth than I do now. No tyreke reference intended

fire westphal.

trade cousins. i really thought we were going to be more competitive than this…..

Yes, trade our best player, that will show the team!
Maybe best potential

Thortons been our best player which is a dissapointment.

Not our best player IMO
Still want to keep Cousins

You don’t trade him in his second year of rookie deal.

I really don't think cousins is the issue

No one on this team is playing for westphal

Correct.
Guys, guys, guys

It’s ok. at least we have Hassan Whiteside.

Not Ok

Because he’s in Reno

Might be starting along with Honeycutt by tomorrow
Neither one played last night

??

honestly

WTF…happened to the tyreke we saw his rookie year. he doesnt do any of that shit anymore

Paul Westphal Happened.
tyreke has lost all confidence he used to have
That happens

When you have a terrible coach who has no plays that play to the strength of the players. First year he played on skill, it’s the coaches job to help build on that

The first year might be what put him at a disadvantage

PW gave him free rain to do whatever he wanted, treated him like he was the next Kobe. He wasn’t taught the right way to play from the get go.

At least he was averaging 5 apg

With a worse team, what happened to ball movement if he was let loose his rookie year.

Pretty sure he's still doing that

with ’Reke.

Not

Saying he should be fired or anything …. But what coaches are available right now? My friend was talking about that earlier and couldn’t think of any.

Shouldn't have replied

Getting used to this app.

ino

I was just thinking who would even try to coach this team. I feel like trying to replace Westphal with an assistant is almost the same thing

How about some new blood?

I’ll take anyone on this list!

Winningest College Coaches
Last 5 Years

257-50 John Calipari
248-50 Mike Krzyzewski
245-48 Bill Self
233-64 Roy Williams
229-69 Thad Matta
224-63 Jamie Dixon
221-76 Billy Donovan
221-55 Mark Few
217-71 Jim Calhoun
216-75 Rick Barnes

Successful college coach =/= successful NBA coach

But anything is better than Westphal at this point, so I’m on board.

Yeah that doesn't work nearly as much as you might think.

In fact it almost never works out.

Agreed

But being the youngest team in the league gives me hope that a college coach could get through to these guys!

Westphal

Was a failure at Pepperdine, as well :/

Most of those guys won't take the pay cut
Not sure what you're talking about

He still has his handful of dribble moves to elude 4 guys and get to the rim. But as was pointed out yesterday, without proper defense to initiate fast breaks there isn’t much opportunity to utilize his best skill as PW apparently is tired of being chided for the 1-4 flat OR the team isn’t quite sure who its supposed to be run for at this point in time…

In good ol kings fashion..

so are we waiting for austin rivers?

Are we the worst team in the league now?

I think we are better then Washington, Cleveland and New Orleans though

I think

Theyre better than cleveland, for sure.

That would be the Wizards
By that I mean, we are better than the Wizards -- record wise, anyways.
Washington? No.

N.O. maybe but when healthy, it’s tough.

Cleavland…….. God I hope so.

I think the Kings are the worst team in the NBA with the least amount of promise going forward

for the foreseeable future.

Sadly I agree with you on that

Irving is still a rookie, N.O. has new guys like Gordon & Kaman. I hate to say it, but I think we have reached our peak with our lineup right now. That is unless Jimmer and IT will break out to be stars.

Don't let the recent play get you that far down

There is still a lot of young talent here, but the team is poorly coached and assembled. I’d still rather have our team over many of the other bottom dwellers.

For some reason or the other the Maloofs are cheap ass bastards,

they won’t fire Westy and shell out some real cheddar to snag a top coach, they’d rather reenact the plot of “Major League” plus stand behind the current loser-of-a-coach, PW. Until they stop shopping at Thrifty’s for head coaches and shit can their current loser-of-a-GM and hire some new blood, I don’t like the Kings chances at success for the foreseeable future. C’mon, Maloofs…you can do it! Stop crapping on the fans.

They don't have the scrilla

If the shell out top dolla for a top flight coach they’re gonna need to spend money on a new GM to actually go out and get some legit talent.

Petrie isn't the problem

What can he really do when the Maloofs limit his spending to the min.

Hopefully by the end of the season I'm singing a different tune.
Don't forget the Lakers

We are better than them. Remember, we kicked their cocky, arrogant arses on opening night :-)

Nope.

They had a bad night, and the way Bynum’s playing, we’re lucky not to be 1-6.

I think we have more talent than a lot of teams. If you play fantasy.

Buy Kings starters before the coaching change

Keep Paul Westphal !! (away from the Kings)
Too bad I'm not in Sac-Town

The next rally you guys have for “Here We Stay”, you guys should have a “FIRE WESTPHAL” thing going. Please.

lol yes away.

maybe not fire Cousins. but i think he is major negative piece in the puzzle. BAD CHEMISTRY. they can’t gel.

Curious. You posted this after his play last night.

Cousins played one of his best games of the season and was one of the few bright spots in the game last night.

If we lose tomorrow

I for one am going to take a dump right there in my seat in section 212 as a protest. Who else is with me?

You're going to take a Westphal in your seat?
Please do this.
*if we get blown out again tomorrow

i’m right there with ya

I dont think Milwaukee can blow out a team

Have you seen that offense play? This game might stay in the 70s, and it wont be because of good defense on either side.

remember if you do that none of us will acknowledge ever chatting with you

You’re on your own EJ. As they are hauling you away with your pants around your ankles and a poopy butt DO NOT MENTION STR!

It's a deal

As they are hauling me off I will babble peaches name over and over

The post game Coach Westphal interview - HIgh point of the game once again!

I think Paul Westphal is a great coach,

…but a terrible fit for sacramento. he’s more of a veterans coach. i feel like he’s not developing our young players and giving them proper guidance. also, the team just doesn’t play for him anymore. i think regardless of who you are, it’s time to go when your team stops playing for you.

This is exactly what Tyreke's brother posted on his twitter during the game tonight
Do you have a link?
somebody posted it on the 2nd game thread, towards the bottome quarter or so of the page.
Here it is:

http://twitter.com/#!/Bluprintceo/status/154798216859230210

You'll have to copy and paste the link instead of just clicking on it

By the way, during the game he was REALLY criticizing the coach, saying there was no offense and whatnot.

Thanks. Just read his recent tweets.

He is calling for the coach’s head.

Highlights
you must don’t understand the game. It’s a system. The coaches system. It has to be followed. He has no system!!!
the bad thing is its not their fault. They’re being thrown into the fire with no coaching.
Yeah, need a new voice and someone who can tailor their system to the players strengths." absolutely!
this is painful! Where’s Reke? Fire Westphael i’m sick of his bullshit and bad rotations" facts!!
Some of these are retweets by the way,

I can’t really decipher twitter though.

Damn

Anybody consider what happens when Westphal gets the ax and the team still sucks?

i honestly think we will be better with a new offense/defensive scheme/coach

the problem with westphal is that the offense is basically just running ISOs. i think running an actual offense would benefit every player on this roster, but we aren’t getting that right now. so i think it’s time to get that.

however you might be right that that could take a little while and in the meantime we will still stink, but hopefully we will be moving in the right direction. the current state of the offense does not look like it possesses much potential going forward.

Westphal is just trying to force a scheme that his players are not good at.

It happened in the last couple years for JVG in Houston. JVG’s guards wanted to leak on missed shots and try an uptempo game, but JVG would punish his players for not playing his scheme and that is inevitably why Houston got rid of him.

What makes Adelman’s offensive schemes so successful is he takes his philosophy (Princeton offense) and tailors it to fit his players.

It is like buying a suit straight off the rack vs. getting one to tailored to fit you.

haha i just went back and looked at his twitter page

if you read all his tweets from the past couple of hours he does pretty much say this. i guess that would make sense because the only difference between me and doc is that I’m not the owner of a rap label.

Oh snap, I didn't know you were Tyreke's brother also
here's the first in the thread:

GO KINGS!!!!!!! BEAT THE BUCKS TOMORROW!!!!!

..

nice! I gues. u like them too then!
Love the Kings

We have lost by a combined 50+ pts the last 2 games

there's a thing called loyalty and love

Idc about the score. I will love my kings forever.

I love them too

But right now it’s the “I love you because you’re family but you need to get some serious help”

Intervention time!
This is one of those ones that I can't stop watching

A real knee-slapper!

Is that S.E.A.L?
who was arguing with me about Shumpert?

18 pts on 6-10 fg, 4-6 3PT, 2-2 FT, 5 REB, 3 AST, 2 STL BLK, only 2 TO…. in only his 2nd game. he’s gonna be better than Jimmer

Small Sample Size Institute approved.
Ya, he also plays with Melo and Stat
This team

has been pieced together with a specific strategy in mind. It is apparent that that strategy has failed.

So my question is are we stuck with a group of players who are not compatible?

Even if we bring in a new coach, is this group doomed to lose because they can’t mesh?

If so, aren’t we looking at another two to three years of rebuilding before we become competitive again?

That’s the great frustration, isn’t it? We thought we would at least be competitive.

Or is there hope with this group and a decent coach?

Even with a new coach this group won't work

The blame doesn’t fall completely on Westphal. Petrie failed to acquire a proven point guard, a quality small forward, and didn’t sign a shotblocker specialist. Petrie needs to be in the chopping block talks as well. (Oh, wait, people still think he should be heralded as some kind of mesiah.)

Agreed

This team is going nowhere as built.

Defense is defense, open shots were missed by the buttload. They’ve clearly quit on PW so logic says they’ll quit again when the sledding gets choppy.

Blow it up.

I agree with Convoy, westy deserves blame but not all of it. Petrie made moves but they were sideways moves. What happened to us spending money and trying to build a solid team? And wtf is westphal doing anyway? He just needs to go.

Don't forget about the players

They took the sac outta… nevermind.

Fire PW, Fire PW

Firing PW this early of the season may save this team from further deterioration let Smart be the coach.

Good luck with that

Sincerely. How many coaches do you need to cycle through before you realize the true problem?

How many coaches have coached this roster?

Only one. Can’t hurt.

And if not...a mutiny is certainly justified...wait, aren't we are kinda seeing that anyways?!

The Royal Court is out of order.

I found is amusing that the 2 top scorers tonight did so in ISO going man on man

and not thru some sort of scheme designed by the coaching staff to take advantage of the players strengths.

I think Cuz’s only assisted basket was on the pass from Jimmer at the rim. And, JR made the comment at half time, that Thornton was the only one shooting well and the team should be looking to find him. He did take 20 shots in 33 minutes with 0 assists, but I don’t think anyone has to make a concerted effort to get him his shots. He does fine all by his self.

is it just me...

Or did the offense have a sense of flow the game Cousins sat out. I may be wrong but he could be the road block on offense IMO

i noticed this too

BUT we were playing a hornets team that was lacking their best player. and also we got out rebounded by 20 that game. the hornet’s problem against us was that they just were not making shots. we still gave them plenty of open looks.

Yes

The team seemed to respond in a highly spirited manner.

If you watch the replay, you can clearly see them say: “Get Cousins the f*&% out of here, he’s part of the team cancer.”

Well, at least they said that with their bodies.

Hell, the offense flowed tonight

For the most part. And Cousins played out of his mind IMO. Guys have to make shots and get back on defense. Or at least stop hanging their heads when the game goes to pucker factor 5.

Off topic, but did the celtics really offer rondo for cousins?

i would have taken that if i was gp………..

I wouldn't

I’d consider Rondo for Evans over DMC though.

There's hope for Reke to acquire Rondo's skills and for DMC to mature

No hope for Rondo to reach DMC’s height

On the bright side

I’m always excited for the next kings’ game even though the circumstance

It's the coach

While our players certainly have flaws to say they are missing shots and not playing d fails to recognize that w/o structure and a confidence a young team will fail…these guys can’t play disjointed rotations and reactionary ball as pw asks for…they are too young…maybe a veteran squad can thrive with such freedom…this team can’t and it needs roles, set minutes and repetitive patterns so they can gain comfort and confidence…w/o that we will barely win 15…with that we win 25-30 and we are working back to relevance…if pw can’t see that he must go

totally agree with this post

PW needs to “adjust” just as much as he’s asking his team to. I just don’t know if that will/can happen. Unfortunately. Congrats & Good Luck Mr. Smart, certainly here’s your chance to look it!

Would any of you trade Reke for a PROVEN true PG or Big Man? If so, who?

Let’s understand a few things here… NO NEW COACH IS TURNING THIS SEASON/TEAM AROUND AS IT IS. #2, We can’t trade DMC and get the value for him, but Treke hasn’t blown his (yet). I think the floor/team chemistry (or lack there of) is poor because we don’t have a floor “general” or dominant center that’s a proven winner. Admit it, Beno did better last few years running the offense and the team.

I wouldn’t mind a Westbrook/Evans deal at all right now (even if it meant a draft pick). Not sure what center a team would be willing to give up for Evans (other than Howard, and not sure if that would work for long term).

we should have

Resigned dally. him and cousins played real well together late last year in the key. The loofs should have ponied up the dough and kept dally. He had a leader presense and a personality that meshed w cousins.

Exactly

Well said

Yay free throw shooting!
I gave it some thought & I personally can't blame everything on Westphal.

As far as we know, it wasn’t his decision to sign a 6’6" center over re-signing Dalembert who played solid for us last year and meshed nice with Cousins, and it wasn’t his decision to draft Jimmer Fredette over a real point guard like Kemba Walker. Other than Isaiah Thomas, this team has no point guard, and other than Hassan Whiteside who is now in Reno, this team has no true center. How can a team succeed when it lacks those 2 needs?? Any coach of this roster would be having the same issues this team is having.

I like Dally

but let’s not pretend he meshed nice. I get the whole preferring a big man who can contest shots thing, but it’s not like our interior defense was all that good last year either.

at least we were able to see a good block now and again

A good swat of the ball can give a team a solid boost mentally. I like blocks, that aren’t cells. He blocked shots on a consistent basis. We didn’t get thornton soon enough to see just how good we could be. If we had signed dally for some decent money and for a few years culdnt we have seen and then traded at a later time if need be so we could have seen the possibilities. Basketball goalies. He’s an original. After these games we’ve seen it seems very clear we now need him or someone w a similar game.

Am I the only one that feels like

a line has been drawn in the sand between this team?

Is it this line?

Mo Williams ?

That game was awful, we really need an experienced PG !

What about Mo Williams against whoever they want (JT, Tyreke…) ?

ya how about Mo Willams, and Brian Cook, for Tyreke and Hickson?
deal

I’m not a big fan of JJ either (too many jump shots), dont know much about Brian Cook…

Shake up the line-up

pg-Fredette
sg-Evans
PF-Chuck Hayes
SF-Chuck Hayes" Ass
C-Cousins

This all starts with the Maloofs

If your not willing to pay out for a top tier coach this is what you get: a coach with an out-dated system and no motivation tactics. A lot of the improved play we saw at the end of last year is just not there anymore. You can see it in the player’s body language which is depressing. After the team got down by 10 it was almost like they said “here we go again” and started hanging their heads and playing solely for stats.

I don’t care who the new coach is they just need to be able to restore confidence in the players and motivate them. The Maloofs need to man up and get a proven coach or get out of town. This could get really ugly before it gets better.

Do we need to mention that Milwaukee wil be without Bogut tonight too?

I’d see he’s their best player right now…Jennings is good but he’s pretty inefficient. Does this mean we’re going to get torn up by Drew Gooden and Ersan Ilyasova? Too early?

Nope

I guess teams see us as a break in the schedule to rest their stars. Can’t say I blame them.

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