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Kings 106, Thunder 101: ARCO Thunder > Oklahoma City Thunder

That was absolutely amazing. With all the hype going into the game beforehand and the fact that Oklahoma City was the best team in the league, this was a night that seemed like it could have been ripe for disappointment. But it lived up to all the hype and more as the Kings pulled out the victory over the Thunder.

In many ways, this game was a parallel to last year, and the efforts to keep the Kings from moving to Anaheim. Not many people thought that Sacramento would succeed in keeping the team here, just as not many expected the Kings to win tonight. In both cases, the fans indirectly influenced the outcome by showing their support. The grassroots movements last year spurred Mayor Johnson and the city to action to begin the process of saving this team and keeping it here, and tonight the sellout crowd energized the players all night long. In the end, that support was rewarded with victory, improbable as it may have seemed.

The Kings as a team didn't have a single individual who truly stood out as the hero of this game. It was a team effort all around, with every player on the court making a meaningful contribution. The Kings were also relentless and fearless attacking the basket tonight, scoring 60 points in the paint. That's despite the efforts of Serge Ibaka, who had 10 of Oklahoma City's 17 blocks. Tyreke Evans led the Kings with 22 points, 5 assists, 5 rebounds and 4 steals. The Kings also had 21 assists to just 12 turnovers, half of those occurring in the first quarter, meaning they took better care of the ball as the game went along. The bench also outscored Oklahoma City's bench 34-19.

Oklahoma City had big production from their main weapons. Kevin Durant had 27 points on 9-19 from the field, James Harden had 17 on 5-11 from the field, and Russell Westbrook led all scorers with 33 on 15-26 from the field. That's over three-quarters of the Thunder's points coming from three guys. Those three players also combined for 15 turnovers though (Westbrook had 7 himself) and that was a big problem for the Thunder. They had just 13 assists to 23 turnovers, as the Kings defense did a good job of deflecting and swiping at the ball all night.

Star-divide


The game was competitive throughout. Neither side really ever got out to a super comfortable lead, with the greatest lead by the Kings being 9 points and 8 points for Oklahoma City. That 9 point lead for Sacramento came as the team got off to their first great start in a while, starting the game off with an 11-2 run in the first 3 minutes. After a timeout, the Thunder came out with their own 13-1 run and it was off to the races.

The first half, particularly the 2nd quarter, saw Sacramento's bench make a big impact. DeMarcus Cousins picked up 3 early fouls in the 1st quarter, and was replaced by Chuck Hayes. Donté Greene, J.J. Hickson, Isaiah Thomas and Jimmer Fredette joined Hayes early on in the 2nd quarter, and that was the lineup that managed to maintain the first quarter lead. Hayes had his best scoring night as a Sacramento King, scoring 8 points on 4-6 shooting, all of which came in the 2nd quarter. With Cousins out, that was a big plus for Hayes to step in like that.

Jason Thompson also did a good job in Cousins' absence, particularly rebounding and passing the ball. JT has done a very good job as of late at finding cutters, and it's clear that there are designed plays for JT to do this. JT had a nice bounce-back game after a couple of disappointing performances, finishing with 11 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 assists.

Donté Greene led the bench with 10 points on 4 shots (he went 5-6 from the line). He also chipped in 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals in just 16 minutes. His defense on Kevin Durant was about as good as you can get against a scorer of Durant's caliber, particularly down the stretch.

J.J. Hickson added 4 points, 3 rebounds and 2 blocks in his 9 minutes off the bench. Jimmer Fredette came in and played like a point guard, distributing the ball very nicely. He finished with 5 points and 4 assists. Isaiah Thomas brought the energy as usual, and while his only statistical contribution was 7 points, he played some very good defense.

The 3rd quarter saw Oklahoma City come out of the gates strong, Russell Westbrook in particular. Westbrook scored 16 of his points in the quarter, hitting shot after shot. Westbrook isn't known as a particularly good jump shooter, but he didn't look like he was having much of an issue during this stretch. The Kings were able to weather the storm though and finished the quarter on a 6-1 run, cutting the Thunder lead to just two heading into the final, pivotal quarter.

The 4th quarter started off much the same as the third, with the Thunder looking to wrest momentum away from the Kings and seal the victory. At the 5:56 mark, Kevin Durant passed to Daequan Cook in the corner for a three to cap off a 17-7 run by the Thunder, giving them a 95-87 lead, their largest of the game.

The Kings weren't quite dead yet. At this point, Tyreke Evans, Marcus Thornton and Donté Greene came back into the game. Thornton had been quiet all night, but featured heavily in the rest of the quarter. After getting the ball stolen away from him by Westbrook, Thornton stayed with him in transition and managed to block the layup attempt, returning possession to the Kings. Tyreke took it the other way and laid it up off the glass, allowing Donté to come in and mop-up.

Durant then missed a three and Marcus took it all the way to the basket, and had his layup attempt blocked once more by Serge Ibaka. Lo and behold though, this wasn't a clean block, it was goaltending, and Marcus' layup counted. The Kings managed a stop on the other end and tried the same thing again, this time with Tyreke Evans, but this time Ibaka really did get the block and Westbrook was off to the races. DeMarcus Cousins was back however and set up good position, easily drawing the charge.

The next couple of possessions were sloppy on both sides, and neither team managed to score until Tyreke Evans found Marcus Thornton at the three point line. Thornton nailed the three and cut Oklahoma City's lead to just one point with 2:45 remaining. Kevin Durant answered right back with a jumper of his own, but not to be denied, Marcus Thornton got open in the corner and hit yet another three to tie the game at 97.

The Thunder tried going to Durant again, but this time Sacramento's defense forced a bad pass that led to a backcourt violation. The Kings got it inside to DeMarcus Cousins, and while he missed his first attempt, he got the ball back and managed to get fouled by Ibaka, earning a trip to the line. The foul was Ibaka's 5th, a huge one considering his impact on the defensive side of the ball for the Thunder. DeMarcus only converted one free throw, but did manage to give the Kings a 98-97 lead with 1:37 left. The lead was short lived however, as Westbrook quickly brought it up and hit another jumper, giving the Thunder the lead right back.

On the ensuing possession, the Kings found Donté in the corner. Rather than shoot it, Donté drove to the basket and managed to draw the critical 6th foul on Serge Ibaka. To put the cherry on top, he also hit both of his free throws, and Sacramento led 100-99 with just over a minute left. The excitement and tension in the arena was a palpable, living thing at this point. The Kings had a real chance to win it if they maintained their composure and kept up the pressure on the defensive end.

That's exactly what they did too. Coming out of the timeout, Kevin Durant had trouble finding room to operate, so he kicked the ball out to Westbrook in the corner, as Tyreke Evans came to double Durant. Westbrook was open but opted to drive, but as he started his drive his heel went out of bounds and it was another Thunder turnover. On the opposite end, with no Ibaka on the court, Evans took it straight to the basket, getting fouled by James Harden in the process. With Evans heading to the line, chants of "M-V-P" began to break out. Those quickly died out as he rimmed out the first attempt, but all was forgiven when the second one fell through. The Kings now had a two point lead with under a minute remaining.

The Thunder didn't waste much time, and Kevin Durant launched a straight away three pointer from the top of the key that just missed off the back iron. DeMarcus Cousins snatched up the rebound and immediately was fouled, accompanied by a thunderous roar from the crowd. These free throws by DeMarcus would make it a two possession game. Cousins had only gone 1 for 2 on his last attempt, but easily sank both of these, making it 103-99 with 27 seconds left. Despite the early foul trouble, Cousins finished with 19 points, 9 rebounds, 2 steals, a block, and two huge drawn charges.

Scott Brooks drew up a play for Russell Westbrook to attack the basket coming out of the timeout. As he began his attempt, the referees called a foul on Marcus Thornton. It was Sacramento's foul to give, but also Marcus's 6th foul. He finished with 15 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block. 10 of those points came in the 4th quarter.

Coach Smart went with Isaiah Thomas as Thornton's replacement, knowing Thomas would have to guard the much bigger Westbrook. Isaiah did a great job of staying in front and pressuring Westbrook, and Westbrook ended up losing control of the ball out of bounds. The referees needed to review it, and the replay confirmed it was Sacramento ball. Victory was almost assured as long as the team could hit their free throws, and the crowd knew it.

The Kings did hit their free throws, and after Kevin Durant's last 28 foot three point attempt rimmed out and was snatched up by Tyreke Evans, the arena exploded in jubilation. Free Tacos! The win is nice too.

All in all, it was a fantastic night for the Kings, their fans, and the city of Sacramento. I was extremely proud of our team's effort, and to everyone who came out to support the team. Magical nights like this are why we've been fighting so hard this past year.

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My guess

10 minutes to write the recap. 2 hours to think of the amazing title. Worth every minute.

Great recap, Aykis!

Now, on to another significant victory on the 14th!

Sacramento Kings.

Hell yes. ARCO THUNDER

Fantastic write-up

And very exciting game. It is nice to see so many players make solid contributions. We actually looked like a deep and versatile team tonite.

The Spurs and L*kers victories were great

But this one was tremendous, and our biggest and most important one this season.

The Kings

did a great job of continuing to go into the paint to try and get points and fouls drawn. Despite the fact that Serge was blocking lots of shots, it was awesome to see the team did not give up on getting good looks in the paint. In the end, there commitment was rewarded when Ibaka fouled out and, more importantly, we got the big win! Also, kudos to Marcus Thornton for sticking with it despite the rough start. His two three’s back-to-back are a testament to what our young team could look like when everyone commits to team play. He knocked down to shots which were well set-up as opposed to going all “one-man army” and it worked (who’da thunk it).

*two

damn its late.. im goin to bed lol

It was brought to my attention today that bed, actually looks like one.
Tonight's efforts clearly illustrate the tipping point

In achieving the critical mass necessary to keep the Kings.

Case closed.

No joke, the comeback started...

When Slamson was rollerskating behind the first row. Now he just needs to skate through City Hall.

First time attending a game that was almost at full capacity

and I have to say it was an exhilarating experience reviving the Arco Thunder with 17,000+ fans. I hope to experience more games like tonight

Great tittle and a great write-up!

Hopefully lots of fans come out vs the phoenix suns game and we get another win! It would be incredible if we made the playoffs this season.

Hey Tyreke, Do you like winning?

Lol thats fucking awesome

Tyreke was so happy that we won here, damn its great to see reke smiling!!!!!!!!!!

Great Win

Over a tough team. DMC and Tyreke said they wanted to be a tandem like Westbrool/Durant well tonight they were better than that. As a Kings fan living amongst Flakers fans in LA I’m so proud of the team and city. I hope they stay there.

Watched the frenetic first quarter here on the East Coast before setting the DVR and going to bed. What a unbelievable game and great write-up! Can’t wait to sit down and watch the replay.

Great win, guys

Kings got stronger and more focused towards the end, and clearly had OKC confused in what they were trying to do on both ends of the court.

What does this team need to do to make this kind of performance consistent? From an outsider’s view, I get the same vibes that I did from the Timberwolves last season – a lot of talent and energy, but not quite able to figure out how to put it all together.

You talking about OKC?
Awesome write up per usual!

I was only able to catch the second half, and what a half it was! It took hours for my brain to shut down and I am dead ass tired now… and I am STILL SMILING!!

Epic win is Epic

Arena hasn’t been that loud since we beat the Lakers in game one. Atmosphere was awesome.

Another note: DeMarcus is doing a much better job of playing with fouls. After picking up his 4th foul and sitting until about 7 and a half minutes left in the 4th, he played the rest of the game without picking up another foul.

It helps that Smart has the confidence to play him despite the fouls

And realizing that OKC doesn’t have a big guy that will really hurt or attack you on offense. And DMC came up huge in the 2nd half, particularly with the charge. Someone has to have a GIF of the charge where he gets up and points his arm the other direction right? That was awesome.

DMC was huge in the second.

So glad when Smart put him back in. He really helped to turn the game around.

I laughed when he pointed.

and laughed the second time too.

He did that twice.
Traveled across the country for work, BUT i stayed up and watched the game

I regret not getting much sleep but I would do all over again!! :)

To the people watching on TNT

How audible were the chants? How many of them came through. I still don’t think we should be doing chants when they are shooting free-throws, the booing drowns out the chants way too easy.

The Sacramento chants towards the end were pretty damn loud in the arena.

I watched the 4th quarter when I got home last night.

Trust me, we were LOUD.

SAC-RA-MEN-TO!

Nice!

There were a few groups starting chants, but from where I was sitting(section 114). A guy in section 104 in a blue Kings hat stood out the most. He was really going at it to get the chants started on their freethrows, but just as he started to get them going it would be drowned out by the boo’s.

There was also a pretty good group at the top of 108(?).

Overall, great job to those chant starters in that 4th quarter. It was aamazing

HL,

First off, good stuff on the game! I was blown away in a nostalgia explosion. That’s the Arco and fans I remember. Love seeing the arena like that.

Second, I know I promised to give hell if the 6th man jersey wasn’t back. After that game, I really can’t – I’m just way too happy. My only question is, what gives?

Some of the jerseys

including the 6th man, the Kansas City ones, and the Pacific division champion banners were taken down for the installation of new Projection systems. They haven’t gotten around to putting them back up yet.

surrreeeeeeeee
Also, this needs to be said again!

Kings have won 4 of their last 5! out of their last 7 games, their 3 losses have come with an average of a loss of just over 2.5 points! Kings are winning and in their losses, putting themselves in position to win!

Kings are also now 5-3 in games decided by 5 or fewer points, which I think is incredible for the youngest team in the league. Young teams normally really really struggle at finishing out close games

Kings fan in NC stayed up till 1:30 am watching this masterpiece!

And it was well worth it, a great team effort by all and having the heart to finish while not giving up was what I’ve been waiting years to see. I love the energy that the Kings played with and I know a lot of it was filled by those in the arena. I felt like I was watching an early 2000s game with the atmosphere I saw on TV.

After the game on Inside the NBA it was good to see the Kings finally get some national respect. At halftime Shaq said the Kings lead was just a result of a “great team not getting up for a sorry team on the road” and that the Thunder would eventually win the game. I was so happy that the Kings prove him wrong and after the game he ate his words and said that if the Kings played like this consistently they should be in the playoff run. Hope to see more of this effort night and night out! GO KINGS

Fuq him
To everyone in attendance last night: You guys made me damn proud to be a Kings fan.

This was one of those special games that I don’t think I’ll ever forget. I recieved a some texts from people who don’t live in Sac and root for other teams who were amazed at how loud the arena was. My mom and step dad, who never watch basketball, said they stayed up late to watch the ending and had a great time watching the game. The “Defense” chants never stopped, even when OKC went on some runs. Reggie Miller made several comments about the energy of the cr

*energy of the crowd.

Relax guys...

we don’t want to lose our 1st round pick right?
/ducks

It's ok, we have Hassan Whiteside.
The first time this has been relevant in a while.

We can throw money at an SF in the offseason, and continue to develop Whiteside into an Ibaka that plays 15 minutes a night and gets 6 blocks.

If we could get half that many blocks at 15min a night

I’d say he is worth it.

I saw him last night

I told him that I can’t wait till he throws a block party out there, and he said, “If you think Ibaka can block, wait till I get out there”

Have no doubt he can block

But can he play man D, team D, shoot, rebound and move intelligently on offense?

So can he Lebron..Hey you didnt say clutch

If Whiteside can give us half of what LeBron does for the first 46 minutes

I don’t care if he defecates on the logo at center court in the last two minutes. We’d find a way to work around that.

LOL..So he will take a Dick Bavetta at center court?

Amazing Showing

Last night completely represented the value of having an NBA team for our town. Having Sacramento on national TV, the visuals of the city coming in and out of commercials, the announcers pumping up how loud and enthusiastic the Sacramento crowd was: that is the sort of intangible value that many of our (actually 4 out of 9) city leaders don’t understand.

It's been a LOOOONG time since I've heard Arco be that lound

When Westbrook stepped out of bounds, the crowd absolutely ERUPTED…I mean it was so loud my ears hurt. The decibel meter (not sure how accurate it is) went all the up to the top—and the music wasn’t even playing!

I’d have to say it was much louder than even the Lakers game this season because we had so many pro-Kings faithful in the crowd.

Great win!

Can someone explain what the confusion was on TNT regarding the arena issue? Was it cleared up properly?

Did Chris Webber say anything of note? All of the fans were showing a lot of love…nice to see.

I didn't hear any of them correct themselves after halftime.

I may have missed it though. There was definite conrnfusion though…

Webber quickly mentioned they made a mistake in regards to the recent vote (didn't really explain it much and doubt he really understood it but just said he mispoke about it)

I really wouldn’t worry too much about it

No worries, Chris just made an honest mistake.

He loves the Kings and their fans and wants them to stay in Sac for good, there’s no doubt about that.

On this particular occasion, I believe Reggie Miller got caught talking out of his ass on the arena issue.

I was really hoping he would take that Pacer front office position during the offseason.

when has Reggie not talked out of his ass?
He does often, I just seemed to catch it more because I know more about the Kings than any other NBA team.

He really is a terrible play-by-play guy. I hope TNT realizes this soon.

no way they haven't realized it
I was ecstatic when I heard Mark Jackson took the coaching job

and the Reggie joining the Pacer front office rumors were coming out about the same time. I went 1 for 2 there.

His sister would do a better job.
His sister already does a better job just in the short interviews she gets.
Reggie Miller *is* his sister
I didn't go to the game, so I saw it

And it really pissed me off. Our lone chance to be on national TV and they go and mess up on all our Arena info.

Sheryl Miller interviewed KJ at the end of the first, and she asked him about the failed arena vote. Perhaps she’d gotten it confused with the failed Strong Major vote? Who knows. But KJ, of course, corrected her and said no arena vote had been voted down and he was confident and such.

Flip to the commentators. Chris was asked about how he felt about the Sacramento situation. Webber said he loved Sacramento, but he was very worried about the “failed vote”, and that it would take “a miracle” to keep the Kings in Sacramento. Webber said that… WEBBER!

And Reggie even went on to claim that KJ was “spinning” the news about the arena to make it sound not-so-bad. Utterly ridiculous!

Of course, everyone started spamming the TNT twitter with the truth, but all we got was Webber SOMEWHAT correcting himself, saying he’d been wrong about the recent vote, and had heard everything had gone south from some fans in Sacramento. But no correction, no one saying the vote had passed, nothing more than a quick blurb about it from Webber.

This infuriates me. I know it has no effect on the actual vote, but at least give KJ credit! And don’t seel it short and say it’ll take “a miracle” to get this done! The Millers didn’t do ANY research, and even Webber couldn’t be bothered to check out his facts.

TNT absolutely messed that up

I was listening to Grant on the way home and he was ripping TNT a new one for their lack of knowledge on the situation. The funny thing is he said that he interviewed Kevin Harlen before the game and he said Webber was on top of the whole arena situation. Not sure what went wrong with him, but Grant said he is in contact with Webber and wants to get an interview with him later today.

TNT completely messed it up.

I was so upset about it when I watched the tape today. But to see C-Webb hang up on Grant when he was trying to correct him only infuriated me more. We wanted C-Webb there last night, but getting the information wrong, then not taking adequate steps to get it right feels like a slap in the face.

Not sure if it was the crowd energy or what

But it was sure nice to see the team come out playing well and not getting down double digits early.

So unfortunately I couldn't watch the game!! =(

Is there any way to watch a replay of this game?

Cruise over to my house, I DVR'd the sob!
I've heard it gets replayed on the weekend.

Not sure if it’s TNT or NBATV though.

NBATV
Just did a search and don't see it listed. Lakers-Celtics is on there though.

Will they add it?

Oh

I hope so!

Dang!

I was watching the recorded game on U-verse and it finished at the last two minutes of the game. I was waiting for those two minutes. I’m so upset. Oh, well.

Somebody ship this man a blu-ray, stat!
If you contact me on twitter, I might be able to help you out.
Went to the game last night!!!

Originally had tickets for row P but at the last minute I upgraded to 3 rows behind the bench and it was AMAZING!!! The loudest SAC-RA-MENTO chant came late in the 4th when Tyreke was shooting free throws…I was like, “we are at the free throw line, we need to be quiet”…but the chants were so loud and great that you couldn’t help but join along. It didn’t matter because he sank both shots which leads me to believe that we need to get the Sacramento chant going every time he is at the line :)

I think I took the good times for granted because last night was AWESOME!!! Best part of the game - I got a dirty look from Perkins for all the Blake Griffin chants I was giving him.

Go Kings!!!

rec'd for pissing off Perk
Perkins at the Line

Wish we could have had the whole arena chanting “Bl-Ake Griff-in!” when Perkins was shooting his free-throws.

One dude in 204 tried early, but no way it was reaching the court.

Good to know you were at it, though.

What is the Griffin reference?

I guess I missed that

I couldn't watch this game

but based on what i’m reading it sounds like our Defense stepped up this game! AND I’m guessing DMC has forgot all about asking for a trade? haha I just hope that DMC, Reke, MT realize how much better this team can get, and it all starts with them

Plays of the game for me

1. Donté driving to the hoop, drawing Ibaka’s sixth foul, and getting two free throws, rather than settling for an outside jumper. Put the kings up 100-99. (I think someone is coaching him now)
2. IT causing the turnover soon after that, while playing great DEFENSE on Westbrook.

It was hard to pick a player of the game, because there were so many heroes. Who says there is no “W” in “TEAM”?

ha ha, did you see how mad Ibaka got after he fouled out? The Kings were clearly under his skin at that moment.

Yeah that was great to see after watching him dance around after each block
Cuz and him had been tossling the previous couple possessions...

And Serge was clearly starting to get frustrated.

But to be fair to him on the foul out, there really didn’t seem to be much contact to Donte on that play.

If Ibaka fouled out, then Pekovich should have been charged with attempted murder the other night.
Very true

Pekovich was definitely getting away with anything and everything. I still think the non calls on him lost us that game.

Those nights will happen. Need to play through them.
Would like to see DMC take that 10-15 foot jumper when they give it to him.

He passed up a few of them and put the ball on the floor and drove. Needs to be aware of guys like Ibaka, and know that shot can open things up in the lane.

Still so fired up!

I like him driving to the hoop...

I just want to see him take it stronger…tired of seeing double pump layup attempts from your 6’11" Center.

His mid range jumper has been very consistant this season

But I agree, he does play below the rim more than he should.

That is something that Chris mentioned

And I agree.
“Throw it DOOOWWWNNN big man!”

Speaking of Bill Walton

I heard that he said, “Start printing the playoff tickets Sacramento, the Kings are unstoppable!!!”

Walton is the Kings of hyperbole

Last year he called a Donté Greene turnaround jumper “the greatest shot in Kings history”

At Halftime

He was walking to the tunnel and some people in the crowd were calling out his name…He had both his hands up doing a two handed wave like he was riding through a parade after winning the NBA Championship. Man I love that guy, in small, very small doses.

He's definitely a character.
lol I remember that

I do enjoy his random commentary/anecdotes at times

at this point it almost seems like it has to be some time of coaching decision ("Pass the ball 5 times!")

it’s either that or it’s a crutch and I have a hard time believing it’s a crutch given it sure seemed like he liked shooting it whenever open before. But who knows.

Maybe, but it didn't really look like he was looking to pass when he drove.

It could’ve been Smart knowing he can get by Perk and told him to drive when he had that matchup. Just needs to be aware of a good weakside shot blocker.

A Whiteside shotblocker?
Side note

I wasn’t expecting DMC to make the All-star game but I don’t see how Marc Gasol makes it over him. If Memphis had a good record I’d be fine with it but they’re barely at .500 & not even in the top 8 in the west. DMC’s number are 15.4 pts, 11.4 reb, 1.4 blk, PER 20.62

Gasol’s numbers 15 pts, 10.2 reb, 2.2 blk, PER 19.38

I’m not really saying DMC should have gone over Gasol but it’s interesting to see he’s putting up All-star numbers.

TS% – 55.2% vs. 50.4%
Ast/Tov Ratio – 1.44 vs. 0.29

DMC vs. Gasol on these or vice versa?
Gasol then DMC
Guess I should have known that

The TS% is a dead giveaway.

The A:T Ratio is the giveaway (this season)
Pretty equal stats, but also Gasol's usage rate is much lower

18.3 (Gasol) vs 27.0 (Cousins)

All in all, I would rather have Cousins on my team than Gasol...

Maybe next year All-Star Team might be within Cousin’s grasp.

I'm thinking this will be the last year in a long while that DMC won't make the All-Star team.
West is tough

Lots of good bigs. DMC just needs to clean a few things up, and get the team to a better record and he’s in.

Plus it's likely that Dwight Howard will be in the west next year.
hope not
Actually, I hope so...that way Bynum won't get voted in by default.
So Dwight just replaces him as the default vote in?
yes, its the lesser of two evils i guess.

And, if Dwight goes West, I think it will be Dallas in the offseason, not at the trade deadline.

Or it'll be the [redacted] and they traded away Bynum.
doubt it

Brooklyn looks like the front runner by a large margin

/pure speculation
You could make an argument for Al Jefferson too.

He’s at 18.5 pts, 8.9 reb, 1.6 blk, PER of 21.6 and has a better record than both of them.

Paul Millsap was deserving as well.
so many damn powerforwards in the west clogging it up

you really do need to have a good record to seperate yourself from the herd and even then you run the risk of coaches giving it to the vet because they are treated a little different

You don't get into the All-Star game playing for a bad team

unless you put up truly ridiculous numbers, like Kevin Love and Blake Griffin did last year.

At his rate of growth though, I could see DeMarcus making it next year easily.

Do you think the widespread (although misunderstood) attitude stories

prevent him from being considered?

I think his point about playing for a bad team is the biggest thing going against him
Plenty of players with attitude stories/issues get put in All-Star game if they're good enough.
I feel his "problems" have been blown out of proportion

by the national media. Even after the game Chuck and Shaq were talking about it. Anytime anyone in the National Media is talking about Cousins they seem to lead with his attitude problems before they get to his talent. I just feel that the negative connotations have effected Cousins much more than other players.

Of course they get blown out of proportion

I honestly don’t care much about what the national media thinks about this team. I know for myself that I love this team no matter what, and I also know I and most Kings fans have a greater knowledge and awareness of what is going on with the team and the city than a bunch of guys who only watch the Kings the one night a year they’re on national TV.

That all may be true

But it’s nothing new. Cousins really made his own bed in this regard.

If he continues to behave and play the way he has, those concerns will disappear over time, even with the national media.

It'll take at least another year though.

Even if they made the playoffs this year, all the announcers would talk about is his attitude.

That was part of my point

Gasol plays on a “bad” team as of right now. We all know they can be good when Z-Bo comes back but right now they’re only a few spots ahead of us in the standings.

He's on a playoff team.
I've got no problem with Gasol over Cuz.

I would have flipped a bus if DeAndre Jordan got in over both of them.

After coming home hoarse from the game

I decided to watch “just a few minutes on my DVR”

I ended up watching the whole damn thing!
Great night, my wife said how she really misses when almost every game was almost that loud. My reply? If they won some damn games we’d see it all the time! Ahhh for the days we had a complete roster, a starting caliber SF.

You can’t blame the crowd for not getting into all the chants, we were busy cheering the f-ing winning!

It was interesting to see the Kings continue to take the ball inside.

In spite of 17 blocked shots by OKC, they had 60 points in the paint. Great coaching, I think.

My notes on the game, adding to the above comments

I really liked the defense on Kevin Durant all night. I think he only got 2 layups (both in the 1st half). And he really got pushed away from the basket when he was battling for position, having to catch the ball near the 3pt line a lot.

Any game we play the Thunder and Westbrook has 7 more shot attempts than Durant, I will be happy. There is no way this should ever happen.

Also like the Ast/TO ratio for both teams tonight. 21/12 Kings, and 13/23 for OKC. Also 13 steals for the Kings, 4 from Tyreke (One was an awesome pick on Westbrook for a transition layup!!)

Bench came up big tonight. Nobody in particular, but it was nice to see all 5 bench players come in and contribute, leaving both Evans and Thornton < 40 minutes.

Also we were +4 on fastbreak points and +26 on Points in the paint (60 to 34!!)

+1 According to Hoopdata

Durant was 4-6 inside 15 feet. 5-13 outside 15 feet. I’ll take that shot selection against us any day

KOBE
if u make it 3/6 inside and 5/17 outside
Thunder's offense really reminded me of Westphal's Kings

Except with the talent to actually pull it off.

Lots of isos and drive-and-kick to shooters spotted up.

Lots of tough shots, too. Except they’ve got guys that will make them.

Agreed. They are one of the best teams in the league right now, but they could be even better if they played off each other more instead of basically against each other.
yeah they rely on iso a ton
Great write-up as usual, Aykis, but I think this is one of your best.

The title is great, the parallel you drew between people who didn’t think the team would be here now and those who thought we would lose the game last night, insightful. I count myself in both those groups and still amazed the team is still here and still in wonderment they won last night.

A few random observations, most have already been mentioned:

The crowd was fantastic, with very few empty seats. The crowd energy and team energy complemented each other. It was a consistent and steady effort on both parts. As has been mentioned, no one player stood out, it was a team effort.

I don’t think I have ever seen so many fantastic blocks in a game. Unfortunately, it was from the opposing team. What a way to suck the energy out of the moment.

I mentioned yesterday that my guest has never been to an NBA basketball game, although he has season tickets for the 49ers. He knew nothing about any of the players on the floor. He was blown away by the blackout and glow sticks. He noticed the Thunder is a better team, commenting on the accuracy and smoothness of their 3 point shots. His favorite player: Isaiah Thomas. He loved the energy he brought to the floor.

There were lots of little micro-moments that brought the crowd to their feet and got the momentum of the crowd energy going.

Although the crowd wasn’t as loud as the Here We Stay night, I felt like the crowd was more in tune with was was happening on the floor. It did seem like we were having some effect on defense, with the Thunder struggling near the end of the fourth.

Durant and Westbrook were like ice making basket after basket. But as Exhibit pointed out above, we won because of the continual effort of our team. We were scrappier and out- hustled. We beat a better team last night and it felt good.

This is not the same team that Westphal coached

There is actually a system in place. The team is playing together. They are running plays. They are moving off the ball. Wow…Just wow. As a result, I am not walking around with a permanent palm imprint on my forehead.

I am getting ahead of myself, but Keith Smart and his staff have been fantastic, and the team is clearly buying what they are selling.

I dunno if there is much of a system

but they at least are playing to some strengths versus playing to zero strengths

There are glimpses

Fairly often now I see actual plaaaays being run.

Tyreke is doing a little better all the time getting up the court and into the offense, he needs to push even harder, he can alway back off.

So much this

…and spacing.

I lost track during the game but in the first half, it seemed like nearly every possession the Kings had the ball up court and were initiating the offense with 18-20 seconds on the shot clock. That (1) gives you some easy looks before the defense sets, (2) makes the opponent burn energy running back on defense, and (3) gives you time to run a secondary play if the defense takes away your first option, and (4) makes the opponent burn even more energy playing defense for a full 20 seconds.

PLAYOFFS

The TNT crew had a few great quotes and Reggie wasn’t talking out of his ass when he made mention that the Kinds should play like this every game not just the Natl TV ones. And the Playoffs aren’t a long shot at all. The Kings are 4games back.

Nope he's still talking out his ass on that

We’ve played well in all the last 5 games, not just the nationally televised one.

7 games

we’ve won 4 of our last 5, but have only lost by an average of 2.6 points in the 3 losses of our last 7 games.

Well.. played well and have a chance to win are different stories

We’ve had a chance to win our last 7 games!

Playing well is a relative term

If we were a Championship contender like the Thunder, we’d be a bit concerned with our performance in the last few games, even though we picked up wins.

But we are not at that level, so just staying consistently competitive, showing progress, and picking up the majority of the wins we ought to is enough at this point.

Should have won both of those.

especially Minnie

12-14 would look pretty damn good
Awesome stuff!

Great job, team!

Westbrook

Is the biggest ball hog I’ve seen that plays point guard. I don’t want to say this is always going to hold the Thunder back because he’s young and can still improve, but Durant should be getting around 10 more shots than him every game. He kept us in the game along with our energy and great play. I love this team, I’m telling you a trade at the deadline for a complimentary player and our draft pick next year and were off to the playoffs for awhile. Its great to have coach Smart, he had already verbally agreed to join Dallas’s coaching staff but took the opportunity in Sac instead because of the chance to become the head coach, great play coach.

Allen Iverson sez:

Westbrook? We talking about Westbrook?

The only "growing" Westbrook needs to do is the area between his ears.

That guy made at least 5-6 bone-headed plays last night that made me really happy he isn’t on the Kings.

Think about it though

He’s only 14 months older than Tyreke. And he’s got entirely different pressures – namely, trying to get a championsip team over the top.

Westbrook’s an amazing talent, and an incredible athlete. I love watching him play, and accept that he’s not a finished product.

i love watching him too

Because his athleticism is unmatched imo. If he’s a pg he should know Durant is the man on offense and work off of him, but hes so determined to score all the time. He’ll probably get better at distributing but I think that’s always going to be an issue with him.

He played horrible in the playoffs last year

I think they talked a little bit about there still being some alpha dog issues there. Not sure if that’s true or not.

The American Dream
Free Tacos! The win is nice too.
Free tacos reminds me of when....

back in the day, the Kings had to score 110 and win to get free tacos (at the Bell?) . They were at 109 in a blowout win and Tizzy had the ball on the baseline in the frontcourt. The crowd started screaming at him because they wanted their free tacos. He obliged, shot a 15 footer, and buried it. Cue fanatical crowd noise…..

and by the way

Last night was indicative of what it was like most every night of the 7+ years of sellouts.

With a crowd like that, this team should lose only a few games at home for the rest of the season.

I just remember the free Western Bacon Cheeseburgers.
AWESOME win!!

man what a great game that was! everything finally came together. the spacing was good. they showed maturity and grit. the fast break was ran efficiently. even though the offense wasn’t lights out, their effort on defense made up for it. even for that small stretch when it seemed like OKC was going to run away with it, they turned it around and got it done. this was the very definition of a team win.

they’ve won 4 out of their last 5. 2 of those wins against quality playoff caliber teams. phoenix is coming up tomorrow which should be a solid chance to make that 5 out of 6… i love it. can’t wait to see this team improve some more.

on a side note i love how the TNT guys attribute this win to just being because the kings were motivated by national television. nothing to do with playing well. if that’s the case, why weren’t the thunder more motivated to commit less turnovers and win this game too? eff off! for one night just give credit where credit is due.

Such an amazing game last night

I really didn’t expect us to win, considering how good OKC is, but I was expecting a close game. Needless to say, it wildly exceeded my expectations. I wish so much I could’ve been there but those who were there absolutely killed it. Definitely made me proud to be a Kings fan.

By the way, I have to ask…how many of you who were there have no voice this morning?

I barely have a voice. Which kinda sucks, it means that I could've yelled more ;)
Best answer ever! ;)

It feels somewhat ironic that the reason I couldn’t go to the game and presumably lose my voice from screaming/cheering is my Voice and Resonance Disorders class, lol. As a future speech pathologist I should know better than abusing my voice, but I can’t help it when I’m at games, obviously.

My voice is fried

which means i sound like Barry White…. “hey baby, how you doin?”….

I sound like Clint talkin' about America

“They’re definitely going to win the game.” -shaq on okc at halftime last night

And still no love after the game. Kenny and Shaq basically said it was fluke win. Barkley said the Kings need a veteran leader (which I agree with)
Shaq said after the game if they can consistently play like this they'll be a playoff team
Not an incorrect statement

Team’s play has been trending upwards since Smart took over. Hopefully they build on last night now.

I agree and I agree with Shaq's statement

Which is why I had to throw that out there. He did give the Kings some credit

From what I’ve heard his tone changed throughout the entire game

Start of the game: Kings have no chance to win
Half time: Thunder got caught sleeping because they are playing a shitty team. They’ll come back and win
Post game: If the Kings continue to play like this they’ll make the playoffs.

Whoa whoa whoa! I didn't know Shazam was in this picture!

I hear the crackling of hell freezing over. Shaq actually acknowledged the Kings in a positive manner?

Well...

He actually was implying that there was no way they would be able to play like this every night. He’s correct in the statement.

What he actually said was if they had been playing with this effort since the start of the season, they’d likely be in the playoffs. However, then he asked can they keep this up every game and then he didn’t get to answer that as Kenny answered for him and nobody disagreed.

Replay of The Game Available?

Amazing game! Only unfortunate thing for me was that my DVR recording of it cut out with about 90 seconds left in the game! Does anyone know where I can see a replay of the game online?

Same problem here, which I mentioned above.

Didn’t get to see/hear the exciting finale again. I’d watch it again, if I could see the end.I hope the coach and players review every minute of this game. There was a lot of stuff (good and bad) that is worth watching.

whats this free tacos?

where and when.
awesome game. still on cloud 9

Only 1700 tickets for Saturday's game
I'm guessing it'll be at least a virtual sellout.
I'll be there with some friends of mine that are Suns fans.

I’m hoping they get to experience some ARCO Thunder, and REALLY hoping I can talk some mad crap on the way home.

Grant is PISSED at TNT

for jacking up the arena stuff. Like mad even for Grant Napear

what did they do?
The entire TNT staff (including CWebb)

Thought that this week’s 5-4 vote against putting the parking privatization on the ballot - which would have effectively killed progress on funding sources before the March 1st deadline- was a development against the arena, when the opposite was the case.

They kept stating disappointment at that development.

Whoops

Strikethrough was accidental.

Again, in short, they didn’t understand that not putting the Arena funding measure on the June ballot was a positive development.

They completely blew that, which was very unfortunate since this was a national venue

which will leave a whole lot of people throughout the country with the wrong impression of what is going on here in Sacramento. We are winning, but we could be perceived as losing. What really aggravates me – KJ set them straight and they still didn’t believe him .

the guy on right now is HEATED
Is he as pissed as he was with the city council members and Kevin Johnson when they still wanted to keep the ESC issue going even though the Kings were looking to leave?
Whoa, can't believe I missed this.

Give me the lowdown, HL! I want to hear how Peaches blood boiled. Even I was ticked to high heaven on how they messed this up.

Did TNT Ever Correct Themselves?

Did TNT ever correct their error? I heard someone suggest they corrected their misrepresentation of the council vote in the 4th Quarter. Did that happen?

Webber kind of did midway through the fourth but all he said

was that the vote only prevented a public vote on the issue. He didn’t get into the ramifications at all, which is what was needed.

Webber briefly mentioned he mispoke on the vote

and then said he is afraid it won’t work out.

Either way, not the end of the world

TNT Should Hear from Us - LOUD AND CLEAR

I think we should rain down emails, tweets, etc, on TNT, demaning they recant their report from last night, and admit that what we heard and saw was nothing short of shoddy journalism.

Email Addresses, etc.

Anybody have the contact info to make this happen?

This is a stupid and pointless exercise in dumb

It doesn’t matter. Regardless, Sac fans showed their support and showed it’s an NBA city. Other than that, Stern, Bennet, any relocation committee members, and the Burkle’s of the world know what’s happening politically. Everyone local knows what is happening. They shouldn’t have screwed it up, but it’s not the end of the world and emailing and tweeting TNT on it is a pointless distraction.

A Distraction From What?

I totally disagree. A distraction from what? The point is, they got the story BACKWARDS. Seriously. They reported a positive as a negative. That’s shoddy journalism and should be called out as such.

rock on and spend your time raging on TNT over that

but you’d be much better off sending a letter or email to council members Pannel and Cohen and attending either the February 14th meeting and the February 28th one. Obviously, yes you can do all of this and at the same time go tweet crazy with TNT over a basketball broadcast screw-up but one of those things will be utterly meaningless.

Two Issues: Don't Confuse Them

Please understand there are two different issues here. If one of those issues doesn’t matter to you, fine. But don’t call it “utterly meaningless”. Did what TNT did negatively impact the arena developments? No. But was it shoddy journalism that misrepresented our local situation to an entire national audience? Yes.

Don’t call that “utterly meaningless” – unless you routinely excuse such a blatant lack of professional standards and execution.

I completely agree with you Darren. TNT really blew the journalism.

But, I also think Wally has a point. There are a lot of ways to use our energy. I don’t want to speak for Wally, but I think what he is talking about is where to put our focus and energy to get the most benefit. The main focus is what is happening right here in Sacramento. That should be our main focus.

It's utterly meaningless

If I cared so about such trivial screw-ups on national sports broadcasts I would be writing 8 letters a day. So yes, I do think it is utterly meaningless and all it does is created a lot of unnecessary fire and rage with nowhere to go but bad locally.

This is not a big deal

…it was a simple mistake, Reggie and C-Webb not realizing that a “no” vote in this case was a good thing.

They heard the “no” vote and BS’ed from there. Simple mistake. Anyone that knows anything about what is going on would just realize that they had misspoke and move on.

You are wrong

Reggie Miller stated that Kevin Johnson was “spinning.” It was the overall dismissive, fait-accompli crap that has everyone steamed. The broadcasters’ unbelievable arrogance doesn’t help either.

Arrogant and ignorant

A nice combination.

They were also talking about Cousins’ effort as though it were some aberration and clearly had no idea he leads the league in charges and is among the rebounding leaders.

Overall, just an abortion of a telecast.

It was a horrible telecast. At least I was forewarned before I watched it,

but it still p*ssed me off, nevertheless. Reggie drove me crazy. Everytime the Thunder made a basket, he just gushed over it; yet tended to minimize the accomplishments of the Kings. Made me sick.

I don't mind a writing campaign

but at this point there are 9 people who have the future of Sacramento in their hands and that should be our focus. By the time of TNTs game next Thurday I think the Arena’s fate will be 90% a done deal, one direction or the other.
Everybody get their butts to the city council meeting. Skip school, call in sick to your job, tell your wife you have to leave for a few hours to cheat with another woman, just get there.

Would agree

however, as a bit of an aside, I think the fate of the Arena is far from determined by next Thursday

of course by then who knows all the stuff we have no clue about might finally come to the surface
In my mind

it they approve RFP its a 90% done deal. I do not believe it will come in under 220 .
Worries about the number of years can be appeased. So to me, the major road blocks will be done. Failure to request an RFP means its 90% over except if its a delay and not a refusal. That’s how I see it.

oh failure to request an RFP it's 99.9% over and I think it's an absolute certainty it will go through okay

it’s just we have no clue on the years, the terms, or even what parts of the city’s parking they will end up deciding to lease and that stuff matters for the price (and what we can apply all of the cash too). Then you still have to negotiate with the NBA and Maloofs and there is still a gaping funding hole left to be filled after that.

I would bet lots of money on 5 Yes votes on February 14th. I have no fear of that going bad (granted might just be 5 votes but still). If in negotiating on the parking they get the lease years down to 30 years I would bet lots and lots of money on 5 Yes votes on February 28th but zero clue how they are going to fill the rest of the gap. Either way, they won’t have that figured out yet and there is going to be a 60 day extension. It’s going to be awful hard to get 5 Yes votes on February 28th with a 50 year lease although yeah that would likely shrink the gap a bit.

I don't believe there is a significant gap

I believe what most people are calling the gap are funds not yet accounted for by the general public.

well yeah I am sure there are plans

but just for instance, covering the parking revenue streams: if they tried to get $9 million annually of revenue streams from the arena that is going to take some serious negotiating especially if the Maloofs are having to pay rent (whether it’s paying back the NBA or to the City).

nevertheless though, try it

although would have to think this is where the 2% Transit Occupancy Tax factors in

Worse case

a 4-5 $ ticket surcharge would generate the money, but I don’t think they would need it from all one source

I was probably a buck too high on that 3-4 $
as a consumer, there is nothing wrong at all with a ticket surcharge

don’t listen to the people saying it will make it too expensive. AEG and whoever owns the Kings will charge as much as they can regardless. If they need to lower the price because it’s too high and people aren’t coming, they will lower it. Essentially, it’s them financing the construction. So for consumers, there really is no worse case if the surcharge is higher.

However, it’s bad to AEG and NBA/Kings Owners because they see it as a chunk of the revenue streams being taken from them. If the city could somehow get them to pay $9 million, good for the city.

I will gladly pay a ticket surcharge

if it’s the difference between me going to a game in Sacramento, or pricing out hotels/travel expenses to go watch a game

seriously, don't worry about a ticket surcharge

nobody should

you are so right
you are so right
No they don't need it all from one revenue source

but it’s going to be hard to get all $9 million just from arena revenues with AEG and the NBA/Kings Owners speaking up. That’s a lot of money. That’s the equivalent of AEG/KIngs Owners essentially backing a $138 million municipal bond at a 5% with payments over 30 years. And yes that’s on top of the already rumored about $130 million combined from those parties.

Now obviously, that would be awesome. It would be a very good thing. I just don’t know if we should be expecting that especially considering these parties are already looking at minimal parking revenues with the new arena. Again, it would be awesome and wouldn’t fault the city for trying, but I am not holding by breadthe on it and I don’t think all of this stuff has been hashed out yet given the parkign situation hasn’t been dealt with yet.

Biggest Play In The Game

For me Was Durant losing the handles forcing the over and back thats just not something you see from a STAR of his caliber. If anyone knows when or if it will re-air let me know please DVR cut it off with 2 minutes left. :(

Ahhh DVR! I had the same problem.

NBA Games I always add at least a half hour

I think I tacked an hour or so after this one.

Lesson Learned

was in a hurry

Yeah or tape the next program. Learned my lesson on that 4 years ago.
Lesson learned. That was such a disappointment.
Same here.

I was actually afraid it would go to overtime and I would get cut off. That would have sucked.

Is it normal that I'm re-watching it again?

Holy crap we were loud! So so proud of all the Kings fans like you wouldn’t believe.

I can't wait until I watch it again!
I was at the game

and was only going to watch the tnt comments – and ended up up watching the game all over again.

You are either not a loser – or we are one. (says the Budda)

Oh my god

I am a fool… I just read the comments on a SacBee article about the Kings… I think I’m gonna be sick.

Bad call

I don’t want any of that garbage to ruin my memory of that night. Those people are bonafide idiots.

You fail

I found that stabbing myself in the face with a pen is more enjoyable and more informative.

Never ever read the SacBee comments.
I have been to a lot of Kings games in my life and that might have been best one

It was the best regular season game I have ever been too and rivaled a lot of the playoff ones I have attended. That place was sooo loud at the end of the game that it reminded me of the old days. I still haven’t got to see what it sounded like on TV, but it was rocking inside. I’ve gone to the last two games and they have both been awesome. The amount of passion they are playing with right now is really making it hard on me to not want to go to every game. I just bought tickets for tomorrow night and hopefully they bring it. Great job to all the Kings fans that attended the game last night, the crowd really helped that team out last night. Go Kings!

CWEBB is on Grant now addressing the issue!
ooo damn, C-Webb sounds PISSED at Grant!

They’re fighting now

Annnnd C-Webb hung up on Grant
Dammit, I missed it!
Basically

C-Webb was offended because he feels he has done right by the city of Sacramento. And he feels that Grant and Jodi were wrong for focusing on the wrong information he mistakenly put out there. And that he deserves better treatment.

He was saying something to the effect of “I got Jodi calling me wanting to talk, and I thought it was about me putting the jersey back on and how good that was. But no, you want to talk about how I messed up. I don’t deserve that. If I said wrong information just tell me what I said wrong and correct me, don’t bash me and TNT like this.”

Then, he says that he felt so happy to put a jersey on, and that was the first time he had put a jersey on since he retired. Grant tries talking over him but Chris keeps going saying, this is my home, I would never want to do anything to hurt my city. But I’m not going to let GRANT talk about me like this. And he hangs up

Lost alot of respect for CWebb just now

Couldn’t believe what I was hearing from him. Just shocked at his arrogance and hubris. Unbelievable

I honestly don't know what to think.

He was in the wrong, he shouldn’t have acted like that. He definitely came off defensive to start out with, which made me wonder why he was so angry to begin with.

But I can’t turn my back on him. I still feel like he’s done so much for the city and the team. People talking about not having him there when the new ESC opens is just crazy to me.

and I'll just submit all my previous comments on this non-issue
This is all being completely blown out of proportion

Who gives a shit that TNT and C-Webb made a mistake? It doesn’t even matter. The only people who matter are informed. If people were to get this upset every time TNT was misinformed on something, there would be a civil war right now solely due to Reggie Miller.

Exactly... To me, it's a minor annoyance

It doesn’t effect us at all, it doesn’t hurt our chances at all, it really hasn’t done much more than piss off Grant and his listeners.

If anything it just goes to show that these ‘experts’ aren’t exactly experts. Don’t always swing off everything these ex-players say because they very well could be spreading misinformation

I don't even remember in grade school thinking players were experts

and I was a really gullible stupid kid.

I agree

But people constantly say, “Charles said”, “Reggie said”, “Trent Dilfer said”.

okay, actually I kind of dig on what Trent says at times, not going to lie
Haha

He’s not bad. There is definitely a LOT worse. Just like throwing his name out when I can

They're replaying it at 6
Chris acted like a punk - it was awful to hear. Very sad. Actually have to defend Grant here
I have to agree.

I love C-Webb but I wonder what got him so mad to start the phone call off at such an angry place.

Maybe he heard Grant’s rant first and got offended?

They baited him on the show with a lie about what they wanted to talk about it sounds like

dunno if that's the case to be honest

Webber knew what he was doing when he came on the air.

wowowowow

CWebb !

General observations

Durrant is unreal
That was a big step in teams development
But we still have a long way to go….
but not as far as CWebb has to go in terms of his broadcasting career

Yup, they are replaying the C Webb think after this break
it's pretty uncomfortable to listen to, just FYI
I'm ready for it!
Eh, wasn't as bad as I thought

Webber apparently feels like he was mislead on what he was going to talk about, he’s had many of run-ins with Grant.

This is very unfortunate.

We love C-Webb. He has been supportive of Sacramento, but he did mess up as did his colleagues on TNT. Too bad it has resulted in this misunderstanding.

Webber went crazy on Grant's show

1 question about misinformation C-Webb does a diatribe and hangs up. Very weird.
If you get a chance to listen its a must hear.

Sorry didn't see it posted
It was very odd

Which is why I sort of don’t believe Grant when he said he was “100% truthful” on what he told Webber what he was going to talk about. Who knows, very weird.

That said, there's absolutely zero way that Webber didn't know before he went on that he messed up

I guess he could just be extremely embarrassed, in which case this wasn’t exactly the best way to fix it.

I agree

because his diatribe started before Grant even got the question all the qay out

Right? Something seems very off.

He doesn’t seem to have been fully aware of what the phone call was supposed to be about, despite what Grant says.

People that are calling in are turning on C-Webb real quick. WOW

Naw

most of them say they love him but that he was a real jerk…which he was. No defense for this one by Webb

Hasn't that's always kind of been Webber's M.O. anyways?

He can be extremely nice/kind/outgoing person, but he could also act like a jackass if you catch him on the wrong day.

Definitely the WRONG day today then
There's getting defensive, and then there was that

As ElRon pointed out, Grant didn’t even finish his question before he started his diatribe.

It almost seemed like Webber was hoping Grant would ease him in to it all

Like let Webber talk about how great it was to put a Kings jersey on, say how great the town is, then they could ease in to it. However, Grant opened with it, said something a little more forward than he was hoping, I don’t know, whatever Grant said he instantly went into defensive mode.

Oh lord.

Was this really as bad as it sounds? I don’t know where to go on this. C-Webb has done so much for this city, and I love the guy, but why couldn’t he take his own twitter advice and eat some humble pie?

I don't get this.

All Webber has to do is listen and admit there was a misunderstanding. Problem diffused.

What part of this am I missing?

My theory is that he heard Grant's rant before about the telecast and got offended
Makes sense. He was offended and wasn't able to hear anything else.
Nope - why would Webber be listening to Grants show?
Totally reminded me of that time he went off on local media in the locker room

because there was some coverage about his personal life with Tyra Banks

To hear C. Webb's rant

http://t.co/wCrhqHyO

Wow, just wow. C-Webb did not take the high road. Big disappointment.

I can’t believe I am taking Grant Napier’s position on this one.

C-Webb seems more intent on defending himself than trying to get the story right.
He's probably getting hammered at a professional level

And is getting defensive (as I’ve seen people do before when they botch something). Grant was running interviews prior from other network personalities saying how in tune with the Arena issue C-Webb was, and that he had briefed them in morning meetings of all the latest details.

Quite simply, that portion of the broadcast research was Webb’s, that’s why he was assigned the gig, and he was way negligent on it.

He’s probably taking heat from people a lot more important than Grant.

As well he should be. He blew it big time. But, it wasn't just him Reggie was just as bad.

There is an easy fix. Just correct it and report is accurately. I don’t get why that is so hard.

Right but Reggie, Cheryl, and the rest of the TNT staff got their info from Webb.

He was the one that briefed them in the morning meeting.

It sounds like they thought they had an insider of the issue.

It does sound like they thought they had some inside information, especially when they question the statement given by KJ. to Cheryl.

That should have been their first clue that maybe they didn’t have the story quite right.

He didn't give Napear a chance to explain

Grant never finished his second question before Webb went on the defensive. He never got a full explanation and acted as if he was being offended just by being asked how he got misinformed. I love C-Webb, but this was a truly low point for him. Can’t defend him at all.

So Grant never ranted and fumed on the radio prior to Webber calling?
oh he definitely did. That's what he did for the first few hours
That is probably a reason C-Webb came out defensive

Grant is who he is, I expected a little more class from C-Webb I guess.

That's what I think. Grant has been pretty pissed the entire show. Even for Grant.

I was hoping that today’s show would be more about how amazing it was last night, but honestly most of it was talking about how angry he was about the mistakes that TNT and Chris made. Plus Grant asking people to call and and give their opinions on how terrible the telecast was by TNT.

I know Webb is an avid listener of Grant's show

thats why Tyra dumped him

*His entire 4 hour show
You can always trust that Grant and a few dumb Kings fans will take things into the gutter

can always bank on it

People were seriously calling in and saying, "when the new arena opens, just stay home CWebb! We don't want you here!"

I am, pardon my french, but are you fucking kidding me? Bit extreme to say that over one phone call

I have a feeling those very same people will never know if he ever stepped foot in the new arena in the first place
Grant poisons everything

the guy has zero concept of big picture. Never has and never will. Complete dope. Ruins everything that is fun. Just a big bag of suck.

To add

You can tell that C-Webb isn’t just pissed about this particular issue, and there’s some serious history there. I’ve always suspected that Napear’s not on many player’s Christmas card list.

Pretty sure he opened the show with it

and his 5:00pm rant was on it

Peaches is just never happy, is he?

Not defending C-Webb. He should know what Grant is like by now. But seriously, with such a big win, the guy can’t just throw the question out there instead of getting super pissy about it?

Rec for Peaches as a baby :P

Grant did no wrong here ( ouch that hurts)

He asked a straight forward question that need to be asked.

Not the question, but

The way he goes about it. I mean, seriously, the way he rants, you think C-Webb killed a baby. It’s enough to get anyone pissed off!

Webb did not hear the rant

and if he did and it pissed him off he should never have come on the show. Grant’s rant was fine.

How do you know that?
Did you actually listen to the conversation between Grant and Chris?

Because if you did, you would have heard that Chris never even gave Grant an opportunity to explain himself at all. Grant was trying to be reasonable with Chris, but Chris was a complete douche.

I agree with you

But Peaches mishandled the confrontation too. When a guy goes on a rant, you let him vent and get it out of system, instead Douchebag Peaches get repeating himself. “DON’T HANG UP DON’T HANG UP…”

Why did Peaches assume he would hang up? He’s an idiot. He should have let him vent then they could have had a conversation. But still C-Webb was more in the wrong for acting like a baby.

I don't know how or why Peaches thought Chris was going to

hang up, but he seemed to sense it. Turned out; he was right. He probably should have let Chris vent, but I’m not sure whether that would have made any difference. Seemed like Chris was on his own agenda to say his piece and leave.

This is one of those situations where no one was right

Grant’s rant beforehand, whether C-Webb heard it or not, was over-the-top and unnecessary.

C-Webb also came on defensive without giving Grant a chance to explain or even ask a question.

Unprofessional by both sides.

I think he thought Chris was going to hang up

when Chris said something I am not going to come on and let you use your show……

yeah I think it was quite clear what Chris was doing
Does it take all that much (maybe for Grant it does)

But I would talk about it on the show, say that they were wrong! And lecture about that sort of reporting and why it shouldn’t happen, if there are ramifications, etc. But do it conversationally. And then talk to Webb, ease into it, but as him the questions! Tell him he made a mistake, and explain about the whole thing.

Grant jumps off the wall quicker than Batman on steroids when he’s ticked, and it isn’t productive.

Darko would not have gone crazy
We're not talking about Darko and Grant in the same sentence.
Webber snubs Peaches

Again, did you actually listen to the conversation before you made these comments?

Or are you talking about how you would imagine the conversation going? Because, it doesn’t sound to me like you listened to the conversation between Chris and Grant.

I heard the one between Chris and Grant, so you stop asking that:

However, I’m basing this off of the reactions board wide to Grant’s rant preceding his interaction with Webber, which I heard was incredibly livid.

That's why I ask. Unless Webb REALLY overreacted and got defensive quick

The only thing I can think of that could have set him off like that was hearing Grant ranting, and took it personally. I didn’t think how Grant entered that sole conversation was grounds for how Webb reacted. There must have been more.

I didn't hear Grant's rant, so I am only going off the conversation between

the two of them. Regardless of the rant, Chris is a journalist and should have responded in a mature manner, imo. If Grant would have launched into a rant when they were talking to each other, I could understand Chris’ reaction, but Grant was giving Chris every opportunity to discuss the issue further.

Yeah. C-Webb should have handled it better. Agreed.

So we’ve both heard the interview, I didn’t tune in before because I was at work and only tuned in right when Webb went on. I wish someone had the rant before hand. I don’t remember if it was HL or someone who mentioned it, but apparently the entire show up to that point was Grant in full on fire mode.

Wow. C-Webb acted like a bitch. I side with Peaches on this one.
This is upsetting
why does the peaches show always attract so much bitterness
Am I the only one that watched the game on TV and wasn't concerned with the misunderstanding?
Nope, I didn't care either

It only matters what happens here in the city council.

In reality, the misunderstanding did not even lower our chances of getting a new arena by even 0.00000001%
Yeah. This won't affect the deal getting done. Shoddy reporting, sure. Influence? Nada.

I’m sure Stern is paying much closer attention to this to let some false reporting even make him blink.

Yep, no biggie

Doesn’t really bother me at all, but I understand how this could have been upsetting to everyone that tuned into the game and was handed a sh*t sandwich by TNT. You hope to hear a little love during the one televised game of the year, and they crap all over you (and themselves). I give the clowns at TNT little credit, so I’m not really surprised or disappointed. Just a bunch of talking heads.

Yep basically my way of viewing this as well

Rec’d

I think at one point almost all of them said it would be a shame if the Kings left Sac.

That was about all I was expecting to hear. The casual NBA fan that was tuning couldn’t care less and it didn’t make the night less awesome.

Yep. That sums it my feelings very well.
ive felt the same way since hearing the story

but its still not like it was a good thing either, just upsetting to see webber and peaches argue pointlessly

Shame on Peaches

For making a big deal about a non-issue and sucking the fun out of a great night.

Thank you Adam Corolla podcast.

Exactly. This is on Grant. I'm siding with Weber here.

After listening to the call it’s obvious Grant led Weber to believe they were going to talk about Webb’s Sacramento connection, the jersey etc. etc – Webb was eager to talk about that and got blindsided by a sleazy journalist. Grant is just classless, Webb and Reggie corrected themselves on the broadcast, it was meaningless in the arena negotiations and Grant was just being his media whore self and doing his usual one-note rant, this time with TNT. I have a feeling Grant has done this to Webb before, hence the pent-up frustration from C-Webb.

Ditto. He should've focused on all the positive of the night.

It doesn’t ruin it, but it’s a quick way to subdue the Arco Thunder buzz I had going. I would’ve much rather have heard more from C-Webb what it was like for him to be back home, bu that’s just me shrug

Great game

They showed a lot of grit down the stretch and got the crowd into it. And they really turned up the D when it counted. Lots of stars on this night, and great night to be a Kings fan.

Wait, did the Kings win the game last night?

I could have sworn we won a team defining statement game, giving us a critical win and moving us within striking distance of .500.

Yes, 50% of the posts here are about a verbal flub on TNT or a phone call on a radio show that most people here rip on.

It’s like we’ve been wandering through the desert looking for water. We finally find an oasis and instead of drinking the sweet, sweet liquid, we have veered off course chasing after a tumbleweed.

as a wise man once said

This is a stupid and pointless exercise in dumb
It doesn’t matter. Regardless, Sac fans showed their support and showed it’s an NBA city. Other than that, Stern, Bennet, any relocation committee members, and the Burkle’s of the world know what’s happening politically. Everyone local knows what is happening. They shouldn’t have screwed it up, but it’s not the end of the world and emailing and tweeting TNT on it is a pointless distraction.

A wise Wally indeed

I just want enjoyment here now. Because as soon as we lose the second game of a back to back on the road, I’ll be wading through posts on how the sky is falling again.

oh lord i just referred to myself in the 3rd person

need to take a shower, feel so so dirty

SPTSJUNKIE agrees you were pretentious
otis29's new nickname for you is "The Smash"

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