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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2011-12 Week 6

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"Stare into my eyes... and meet your doom!" - John Salmons, probably.

One almost win, and two actual wins. For these Sacramento Kings, that's a phenomenal week, and hopefully there are more weeks like this in our future.

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The Good:

1. John Salmons Finally Joining the Party

See Player of the Week

2. Marcus Thornton Returns

Marcus finally returned to the Kings against Portland and it wasn't a moment too soon. He didn't have the best shooting night, but he did get to the line a bunch and he ended up leading the team in scoring with 20 points. He started off slow again from the field against Golden State, but he went into Beast Mode in the 3rd quarter, when he poured in 18 points on 8 shots. He finished with a game-high 28 points. Having Marcus back really helps our offense, and I don't think it's a coincidence that we are now 6-6 in the games he's played this season.

3. Jason Thompson

Three Games, three double-doubles for Jason this week. He's continuing to be incredibly efficient around the basket, thanks in part to the development of his left hand. He also has shown growing signs as a defender, although he did have trouble with LaMarcus Aldridge, but who doesn't? At this point, I kind of wish the Kings had extended him.

4. DeMarcus Cousins, Double-Double Machine

DeMarcus has been the most consistent player for the Kings this year, and it could be argued that he's also been the Kings best player. He was a force of nature against the smaller Warriors team, and while he only played 15 minutes against Portland due to foul trouble, he still managed 8 points and 6 rebounds. DeMarcus is one of only 11 players in the NBA averaging a double-double, and he's the youngest player on that list while also playing the fewest minutes per game. He's also on pace to be the first game since Brad Miller in the 2003-04 season to average a double-double. All at the age of 21 years old. His growth has been remarkable, and there is still much more to come.

5. Tyreke Evans, Point Guard

Tom mentioned earlier this week that Tyreke has become a much better facilitator under Keith Smart. The stats prove it, and just watching him on the court proves it. He's doing a much better job of keeping his head up and looking for the open man, particularly right at the rim after he's attacked the basket and had the defense collapse. He averaged 7.6 assists per game this week, and that seems to becoming more the norm. Progress is being shown at last, and I think a large part of that credit has to go to Keith Smart.

6. Second Half Defense Against the Blazers

Sacramento won this game with it's defense. In the 3rd quarter, they held Portland to just 13 points, and they managed to outscore them in the 4th as well. Portland also only scored 36 points in the paint.

7. Overtime Dominance Against Golden State

The Kings almost crapped this game away in regulation when the Warriors bench again made a big run. Fortunately they maintained their composure in Overtime and put their foot on the Warriors necks by going on a 9-0 run to start the extra period. Golden State only scored 4 points in the quarter, and 2 of those were on a meaningless Monta Ellis jumper when the game had been decided.

8. Mr. Irrelevant Has Become Oh So Relevant

Isaiah Thomas has far surpassed most of our expectations. He's only a rookie, but he plays with the confidence and demeanor of a veteran. That doesn't necessarily mean he plays like a veteran, because he still makes quite a few mistakes, as most rookies will. But for each mistake there is an exhilarating play like the huge block on Wesley Matthews, or his 11 points in 3 minutes to give the Kings a chance on Tuesday.

The Bad:

1. Turnovers

The Kings haven't had too much of a problem with turnovers overall this season, but this week was particularly bad. Turnovers cost the Kings the game against the Warriors, and they almost cost them the other two games. Sacramento is playing at a faster pace, and is moving the ball, so an increase in turnovers is to be expected. But the team needs to cut down on the ones that are unforced, which is part of the growing process of a young team.

2. Jimmer FreDNP-CD

Marcus Thornton's return did put a damper on Jimmer's playing time, or more precisely, taking away Jimmer's playing time completely. It's kind of strange considering that he had been starting in Marcus' place and had finally started to play well, at least offensively. It's true he did not have a good game against the Warriors on Tuesday, but I don't think he should have been kicked out of the rotation completely. A large reason for him not playing is the fact that Isaiah Thomas has been playing well, and the fact that Keith Smart likes to play a tight rotation with the main guys playing big minutes. However, our bench has been terrible, particularly in the past two games, and we could use a scorer like Jimmer off the bench. I hope he works his way back into the main rotation at some point, although I'm not sure when that might be.

3. Bench Bigs

Chuck Hayes and J.J. Hickson are the Kings options off the bench. Each come with their own liabilities. Hayes at least provides solid defense (as he did against LaMarcus Aldridge) but he can't be relied on to score the ball at all, making him a bit of an offensive liability. I think a bit of this with Hayes is conditioning, but he's never been a reliable offensive option, although he improved in Houston. J.J. Hickson however, has just been flat out terrible on both ends of the court aside from his rebounding. The Hickson-Casspi/Pick trade is looking worse and worse all the time, and J.J.'s greatest value to the Kings probably lies in whatever trade value he might have.

The Ugly:

1. 4th Quarter Collapse Against the Warriors

Sacramento should have won this game, but Golden State's bench came in the 4th quarter and simply took over. Brandon Rush was the catalyst, scoring 20 points in 24 minutes off the bench, and hitting a bunch of threes. By the time the Kings responded with their own run, it was too late.

2. Jimmer Jockeys and Jimmer Bashers

The extremists on both sides of the Jimmer spectrum are routinely awful. SavageBeast sums it up perfectly:

You know, Jimmered

Lots of people complain about the Jimmer jockeys, and I can't totally blame them. But people like you, who have only one message, trade Jimmer, he sucks (okay make that too.) Are just as bad. Lately you've at least changed your message to trade him because he is a good player. But it seriously is old and tired. We are not going to trade Jimmer in his first year anymore than we traded any of our other rookies in their first year.

Relax and let the season play out. This applies to both sides-Jimmer fans and foes. If he is as good as you think he will play into more minutes. If he is bad as you think he will play out of the rotation. It's not like we have a fixed set of players that are consistently getting us wins. We won't know whether Jimmer is a bust or an important part of the team until things begin to stabilize a little.

My two cents is that he is pretty much where most people in the middle expected him to be.

by SavageBeast on Feb 1, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions 11 recs

3. Travis Outlaw, Rotation Player?

One of the more puzzling moves this week was the fact that Travis Outlaw of all people has earned a spot in Keith Smart's rotation. Outlaw hasn't done anything consistently well all season, and these past two games aren't any different. I would much rather have Greene or Garcia playing, particularly because Greene at least has been rebounding well this year, and Garcia is the best shooter of all three.

Player of the Week:

John Salmons

13.7 PPG, .500 FG%, .600 3P%, 4.7 RPG, 3.7 APG, 1.7 STL

It's time to give John Salmons his due. His statistics for the week aren't the best, but that isn't why he's the player of the week. He is player of the week because he was crucial to victory in two of the Kings wins, and he was a big part in why the Kings almost won the other game. He is finally playing like the player that even doubters like myself had hoped he could be. His historically bad shooting slump seems to be over, as he's been our most reliable outside shooter of late. His defense has also been quite remarkable. In two games against the Warriors this week, he was responsible for guarding Monta Ellis, one of the league's premier scorers. In those two games, Ellis combined for 30 points on 34 shots and was a non-factor down the stretch of both games. Against Portland, he guarded Gerald Wallace, and while Wallace did shoot well, he only scored 8 points and didn't dominate us like he had in the previous two matchups. John played a big part in that. If this is the John Salmons we see for the rest of the season, we aren't in as bad of shape at the SF position as we had previously though.

Image / GIF of the Week:

Too bad we can't get GIFs on Signs

Because I have the perfect one:

by Aykis16 on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 PM PST reply actions 32 recs

Comments of the Week:

There were too many good comments this week to just have one.

(In Response to the Mayor unveiling his plan to have fans buy bricks for the arena)

John Salmons has already built three arenas.

by andy sims on Jan 30, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions 20 recs

Kings Platter

Jimmer Croquettes: They're so-so, but everyone at the party raves about them.

Ground Chuck, Shoulder Cut: Tasty, but it keeps popping off the plate. This dish has been approved by the Kings medical staff...twice!

Salmons Puffs: Takes 24 seconds to eat, induces excessive dribbling.

Tyreke Tips: NaAppetizer, NaEntree, NaDessert - No one knows exactly what it is.

DeMarcus Poppers: Packed with attitude, best when dipped in Smart sauce (avoid the Westphal dip at all costs).

IT Tenders: For the kiddies.

MT23 Snickerdoodles: You just can't pass on these - you just can't pass!

by section214 on Jan 31, 2012 10:10 AM PST reply actions 16 recs

(In response to this picture)

Jimmer for three!

by fryingpan136 on Jan 31, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 14 recs

(In response to Hassan Whiteside being recalled from the D-League)

Our new backup SF?

by nbrans on Feb 3, 2012 4:51 PM PST reply actions 10 recs

It's your job to design an offense for me. Not my job to design an offense for you. Now give the ball to Hickson at the elbow and stand still.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Feb 1, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 15 recs

FanPost of the Week:

Lookin' UP! by zzsjolt - Optimism is fun.

Highlight of the Week:

Caption Contest:

Link to Last Week's Picture

Last Week's Winner: SayWhat?

"Yeah, smells like you stepped in some Kings game..."

Last Week's Runner-Up: Caljin

In his new life as a cameraman, Grizzly Adams rarely anymore gets the thrill of a beast in close proximity.

This Week's Picture:

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A reminder of the rules for the Caption Contest. Leave your caption in the comments below, and the most rec'd (to recommend a comment, hit action, then rec) caption wins.

This week's caption contest winner gets to play Travis Outlaw in a game of one-on-one for Outlaw's spot on the roster.

Question of the Week:

Non-Basketball Question since today is the Super Bowl. Who do you think will win? Who do you want to win? Do you even care?

Personally, I have no rooting interest in either team or any NFL team for that matter. I do enjoy a good game of football though so I hope it's a close one.

And Nostradumbass Prediction for Next Week:

@ New Orleans 2/6 W (The one game all year where we actually blew a team out was against New Orleans, and this was after the Cousins-Westphal incident, meaning DeMarcus sat. With DeMarcus, we're even better. I don't foresee this being a blowout, but I do see a Kings win.)

@ Minnesota 2/7 W (Last time we played, we didn't have Chuck Hayes or Marcus Thornton and could have used them both. On the other side, Michael Beasley and J.J. Barea are back for the Timberwolves. This will be another close one, but I think the result will go the Kings way this time.)

v. Oklahoma City 2/9 L (This game will be a sellout, and energy will be high for the National TV appearance. In the past couple of seasons that the Kings have been on national TV, they have put up memorable performances, including a game-winning steal by Tyreke Evans on Gilbert Arenas in his rookie year, to a blowout of Denver last year. However, this year's Oklahoma City team is the best in the league, and they feature a player in Kevin Durant that I have no faith in anyone on this team being able to guard. Serge Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins provide some intimidation in the middle and James Harden and Russell Westbrook are two of the best young guards in the league. I hope the Kings win this game, but I really don't expect them to.)

v. Phoenix 2/11 W (Steve Nash is still Steve Nash, and Marcin Gortat is one of the better Centers in the league. Aside from that though, the Kings are probably a better team, and should win on their homecourt.)

Nostradumbass Record for the Season: 16-7

1 recs  |  73 comments

Comments

I'm a little worried about retaining JT this offseason

Obviously Howard and Hibbert are the big FA prizes at the post positions, but i can see some teams making a push for JT as a consolation if they strike out. Luckily there arn’t a ton of teams under the cap, but if he keeps up with these double doubles it’s going to cost them.

It's also going to cost us...
Yeah seriously

Should have reached an extension with him when we could have.

It was probably a smart move from both parties not to sign.

Unfortunately it looks like it might bite the Kings in the ass.

the Malinda's just called..

Keith Smart and told him to put Hayes back in the starting 5 and put JT on the bench behind Hickson and Outlaw in the rotation. The Maloofs had planned on offering the vets min. to JT with starters mins they may have to pay him more than Hayes. They made the mistake once of letting a guy on the last year of his deal start with Thornton!! Had he sat on the bench they figure they would have lost 13 more games last year but saved 5-6 Million a year on his contract!

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Ref: Holy moly, what is that awful smell?!!!

Marcus: …IT WAS MEEEEE!!!!!!

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You’re kickin’ me out for taking Jimmer’s minutes?!? Damn, EVERYONE’s a Jimmermaniac!

This week's caption

Ref: Someone step on a duck?

Mt: Honest ref, it wasn’t me…

Mr. Irrelevant!

Best nickname ever.

Brandon Rush is a solid player

I think he would fit good on the Kings. As a backup sf or a stopgap

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You’re kidding me, a T for farting?

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Ref: Look Isaiah what you just did to Wesley Matthews is considered illegal in 30 of the 50 states

MT: But Im Marcus Thorton!

Ref: Whatever Isaiah take to the showers

Better Caption

Ref: Daaaaaaaaaaaamn did you just see what Isaiah did to Wesley down there?

MT: What did I miss, What did I miss?

I love Cisco but Smart gave him a chance last night and he punted

Killed the Kings momentum with a totally unnecessary turnover/travel when he initiated his dribble. About half a second after checking into the game, probably not the kind of veteran leadership Smart was looking for. Cisco’s always been one of my favorite Kings, I hope he gets his groove back soon.

Definitely not a Giants or Patriots fan

But I would enjoy watching Brady spend the afternoon dodging the rush and taking sacks. On the other hand Grant is a Giants fan so . . .

Caption:

Marcus: Me! You’re calling the foul on me, while you are standing there with your fly unzipped!

Ref: Head on back to the locker room, you are hereby ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Ref: Head on back to the locker room, you are hereby ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Or is it your are hereby ERECTED??

Kings should be closer

To .500 which would put us in the group of teams on the upswing like Minnesota, Houston and even the Lakers. Lost a few close (and not so close games) But were playing a lot better under Keith Smart.

I find it funny that we're worried about losing JT. 2 months ago we'd have thrown in as filler.

I’m still curious about the timing of bring back Hassan. Reno has 6 games over the next 2 weeks and then has only 1 game in the last 13 days of February.

With Cuz playing in the Rookie/Soph game, I expected the Kings to bring back Whiteside as backup for Cuz in practice. Now, I’m wondering if they might not be going to try to get him some minutes. I know the trade deadline has been moved back to March, but the All-Star Break is still where all the GM’s get together and there’s no rule that we can’t trade early.

JJ still is a quality NBA player, and the potential to be a better scorer is there on a team with a PG who can get him the ball where he can be affective. His offense while with Cleveland and playing along with LeBron was no fluke.

Correction

Some people were willing to throw him in as filler.

Agreed

I have always wanted to resign him. But I really do think we are in the minority, at least before the season started.

I have been repping for keeping JT, and trying to point out that you dont just throw someone away with his talent..people wanted to throw him under the bus from the 2nd half of his first year..I am pretty sure of what JT is capable of becomng, and while It might not be a Nene kind of guy, i think he is gonna be a better Kaman kind of guy…Is he worth 12-14 million a year..No way, Is he worth 6-9 million a year ..I really do think so

I've said for awhile I kind of see him developing into a longer Kurt Thomas

Good mand and team D. Good rebounder. Good jumper to 15-17 feet. And can score on players given a mismatch.

Amir Johnson is making $25m over the next four years

That seems about right.

What I would propose to him would be a 4 year $27 million contract starting at 6, then going up 1/2 million a year (Or you could even go reverse and start at 7.5 and go down 1/2 million a year). I think this best represents what he is worth, and the team would not be overpaying at that point

Up.

To keep the pay in proportion to his value.

That’s my thought but if they Petrie wanted to front load a deal for more available later, they could work it that way

Raises on Extentions are set under the CBA

It used to be the most your raise could be was 10.5%, but now I think it’s around 8% when you resign a player coming off his rookie contract. So if you give him $6 million the first year he can only get around $6.5M the 2nd and so on. So a 4 year deal starting at $6M would end up costing $26M or there abouts.

So, your very close. I don’t know how signing bonus’ work under the new CBA.

Heres the thing, the didnt extend him or give him the QO

If he becomes a FA,Then this is no longer considered an extension right?
Since we did not extend the QO, then we can no longer offer him and extension prior to him going to RFA though..Honestly the Kings should have just made the QO of $4,129,766

and tried to set an extension for him since he is a 4 year player for a decent price.

4 years at 8% raises each year
$6,000,000.00
$6,480,000.00
$6,998,400.00
$7,558,272.00

$27,036,672.00

That's what I get for trying to do the math in my head

I wasn’t aware that we didn’t make the QO. Actually, I don’t even know the time frames set up under the new CBA. But if we don’t own his bird rights the raise drops to 4.5% down from 7.5%.

QO doesn't come into play until the end of the season.

Make the offer before free agency opens up.

Thanks, that's what I thought the time fram use to be.

wasn’t sure about under the new CBA.

Don't believe there were any changes there

but I could be wrong.

That's a pretty funny picture

But I think this one is just… what…

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/02/04/22/18/Y9BZP.Xl.4.jpg

That's a good one

Legally though, I can only use the ones SB nation provides.

Somewhere, Chuck Hayes is squeamishly holding his shoulder looking at this
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Ref: “Anyone else smell that over there?”
MT: “It wasn’t me. I swear it wasn’t me!!”

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The ref (holding back laughter) is just trying to get him away from the guy whistling at his ass in the background.

MT: Why’s he staring at ME?!

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MT: Is that a Jimmer in your pants or are you just happy to see me?

Ref: Oh my God, cover up your hematoma – it smells like that missing stinky fish!

JT has been wonderful this week and with Chuck Hayes still ailing, his timing is perfect

JT seems to have slowed his emotion a half step and he is playing at game pace making better and better decisions. He missed one “I guess I have to shoot it” 20 footer but otherwise he hasn’t taken enough mid range jumpers IMO (I won’t include his 3 pointer to avoid a shot clock violation). On defense, his tap out rebounds were one of those things we Kings fan oft see those “smarter” teams do. On the whole, JT has had a wonderful week.

It is hard to root against Tom Terrific and Gronk but I respect the Giants defense too much and expect them to hold the Pats down enough to allow the G-men to break for some scores. If they win, they will give the MVP to the Sheepish Eli or maybe Cruz, but the defense should get the award.

Fun week of Kings hoop:
The Hornet game will have the return of MT to the Crescent City and the Kings revisit Hat Tip in The Big Easy. I expect both players to show up big (though Landry hurt his knee last night).

I am really looking forward to a Reke v Rubio matchup but Beasley has had some big games against the Kings and I don’t see anyone on the squad to stop him. Maybe Donté gets the nod should John Salmons struggle. The other two PGs for the Wolves are Ridenour and JJ Barea who have been tearing it up, IT goes from trying to guard Nate to attempting to stop Barea – both players he should emulate. DMC should destroy Pekovic. It’s always fun to compete against Coach Adelman.

And then there’s Thursday!

i wanted jimmer to have more minutes

but you cant complain with winning. so keep doing ur thing Smart

As long as the Kings keep winning

I don’t care if jimmer doesn’t see another minute.

Great work Aykis

BTW, props on this:

Nostradumbass Record for the Season: 16-7

That record would make you 4th in the Eastern Conference or 3rd in the west. Well done.

Great post...

It is good to have a GBU thread with more Good (8) than Bad (3) and Ugly (3) combined.

It seems Coach Smart is helping this young team grow.

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Sweeeeeeeet Caroline! This team never looked so good, so good, so good!

on a side note...

i wish the nba would get rid of the hand check and illegal defense rules. they are so useless. it limits the defense and it dumbs down the game. imagine if some of those great 80’s and 90’s games were called by today’s standards… we all would have lost out on some great games.

and i have never in my life… not once… not a single time… ever seen a player get a call reversed after they complain about it to the refs. i mean even when you get the calmer players saying, " he’s fouling me, can you please look for that." i still have never seen the refs change the way they call a game. and you see it everyday in the nba. if i’m a player it seems pretty pointless to waste 50 grand a technical on a losing battle.

absolutely seen refs change the way they call a game

seen plenty of “correction please forgive my early mistake” calls

+1

Happens all the time.

I think we made a big mistake by not extending JT

We could have probably had him for 4 years/$16-18 million. If he keeps playing like this we might have to pay 4 years/$24-30 million or more.

This post is SSSC & IPHC approved.

Maybe

I posted about it at the time.

There really was no motivation for JT to sign anything that wasn’t a slam dunk. If the Kings made a stupid offer, he would take it. But always better to test the market, especially for a young big.

The fact that JT is playing really well is only a good thing.
of course it is

Anybody wishing this guy to play more poorly is confused. It is refreshing to see JT grow and mature – it was always a question for him, growth that is, As a four year collegian we fans expect many of the seniors who enter the draft to be more finished products and as such, their improving and maturing their game is a reason that many of these guys are picked after the frosh and sophs we see taken with the first 5 picks.

The game of pro bball is just as much a head game as an athletic one. Having a strong mental game is a skill. Look at Shane Battier or even better, Steve Nash. I am not comparing Jason Thompson to either of these guys but the point is the same – JT is bringing a more thoughtful approach these last few games and it is a welcome addition to his improving game play.

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Marcus (to ref): “naw ref, when the oxygen mask drops down you put it on like this, see!”

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Ref: hey Marcus did you notice Michael Jordan over there?

Marcus: MJ!!!! He’s my hero he’s the whole reason I wear 23. You think he’s here to see me?

Ref: I just hope my fly is closed.

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Marcus: “No, that’s not our game you smell. I farted. It’s the Del Taco I ….”

Ref: “Get away.”

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StR Member: “Look! He’s holding his nose! Fart jokes fart jokes fart jokes!”
Other StR Member: “Other people already made fart jokes in the caption contest”
StR Member: “BUT YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH”

Tell us how you really feel, G
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Marcus: Love Me!!!
Ref: GTFO!

Caption:

Ref: Ok, sir…it’s your turn to get an autograph from Mr. Beiber.
MT: Oh my god, oh my god, ohmygodohmygodohmygod!!! Which way is HE???
Ref: Just over that way, sir.

Not using Salmons' face from Sat is criminal.
Marcus Thornton's affect on the kings

The Kings have played 16 games with Marcus this season and have gone 7-9. They’ve gone 1-6 without him, but these numbers are misleading.

The Kings with Marcus at home are 6-3. On the Road with Marcus they are 1-6.
The w/o Marcus at home are 0-1. On the Road w/o Marcus they are 1-5.

To further confuse matters, Marcus has shot below his season average in every road game this season. It seems the kings play equally poorly on the road with or without Marcus.

So, I’ll say what I’m comfortable saying: Marcus has played pretty well at home for the Kings.

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